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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:25 PM

1StrongBlackMan (5,422 posts)

12. But ... But ... But ...

whining is sooo much simpler.

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104 replies	Author	Time	Post
Damn Defeatism and Doomsaying! [View all]	MineralMan	Jan 2013	OP
More: Not everyone who claims to be progressive or liberal is.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#1
Kinda disagree, after we lost Ted Kennedy, the senate has been gridlocked.	LeftInTX	Jan 2013	#2
And yet, things got done. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#3
Things got done in the first two years	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#68
What a post!	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#70
Or GingrichCare	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#91
Yup. Indeed, a lot is getting done.	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#93
Thank you! And thanks for the links.	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#94
Shhh.	tblue	Jan 2013	#81
Thanks for your CONCERN. nt.	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#89
I am concerned, even if you aren't.	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#92
No, you're just another Obama-hater. Good luck while you're here. nt.	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#95
Disagreeing with disagreeable policy	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#103
For a little over 4 months, there were 60 Senators...	SidDithers	Jan 2013	#18
giving the dems 60 votes counting the one from Sanders and the one from LIEberman	madokie	Jan 2013	#59
Not to mention ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#65
thanks, in my haste I'd forgotten them	madokie	Jan 2013	#67
Sorry. You're 100% right...	SidDithers	Jan 2013	#73
No problem	madokie	Jan 2013	#85
I don't like it, but I have to support Harry on this.	longship	Jan 2013	#4
Thank you n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#6
Yes. I was surprised to see Barbara Boxer and Diane	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#7
As do I disagree.	longship	Jan 2013	#9
Yes, that's true. Realism has always	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#10
But ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#16
Should the Republicans ever get control of the Senate, dont count on them remembering	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#27
You should't "feel" like you were betrayed.	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#31
I choose to not project into the future here.	longship	Jan 2013	#44
I understand and appreciate your optimism, but if the patient is bleeding	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#50
Or Democratic Senators that realize that majorities come and go.	longship	Jan 2013	#64
With respect I think you are wrong. Even if we get in the minority, there is absolutely	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#69
Well, the majority makes the rules.	longship	Jan 2013	#75
No one is suggesting "killing the filibuster", just make it reasonable.	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#77
But doing it unilaterally would have been very bad for Dems.	longship	Jan 2013	#80
Thank you n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#5
And thank you for supporting real change.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#8
But ... But ... But ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#12
and so is condescension	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#32
Point noted ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#63
Do tell. Please explain what you mean by "condescension and phony understanding". nt.	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#90
Indeed......n/t	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#38
We only needed 50 votes. We have 53 Democratic Senators and 2 Independents.	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#11
Optimism ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#14
If history plays out like it has in the past we'll not always have a majority	madokie	Jan 2013	#60
If you are suggesting we shouldnt "fix" this rule that has been abused	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#66
For the most part we play by the rules where as the pukes don't or won't	madokie	Jan 2013	#71
I agree with that.	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#72
Glad somebody's optimistic.	tblue	Jan 2013	#83
Reid said that he had the 51 votes.	cali	Jan 2013	#13
If he actually had them, the change would have been put to a vote.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#15
so you don't take his word for it, and YOU know better	cali	Jan 2013	#20
The Ezra Klein Washington Post article is fairly comprehensive.	LeftInTX	Jan 2013	#54
I think I agree with you. First, it isnt a valid argument to say "but he said" when refering to a	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#62
Minor point. Currently there are only 99 Senators. He only needs 50 not counting Biden. nm	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#46
Thanks for that clarification.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#47
But he sure made Turtle happy.	tblue	Jan 2013	#84
Hear, hear!	Hekate	Jan 2013	#17
Thank you! When some declare utter failure	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#22
I think you are right about it being...	Hekate	Jan 2013	#26
Yep.	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#36
I've said it before and I'll say it again, "... what calls itself 'the Left'" appears to have	patrice	Jan 2013	#55
P.S. I'd LOVE to see a real Left!!! but I have to be honest that about all I've seen so far is	patrice	Jan 2013	#61
Fascist? Who is reaping the proceeds of production, Patrice?	TheKentuckian	Jan 2013	#102
It just occurred to me: we have to consider the possibility that what calls itself "the Left" didn't	patrice	Jan 2013	#74
Thanks for posting this.	CBHagman	Jan 2013	#19
My pleasure, and I agree with you.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#23
Focus: 2014	KharmaTrain	Jan 2013	#21
Excellent points.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#24
Expatriots?	ErikJ	Jan 2013	#25
Expatriates. Some are quoted regularly here.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#29
There's also posters active on DU who never have voted and never will vote for a Democrat	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#42
There are many posters on DU.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#43
You seem pretty good at writing posts people want to rec	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#52
Not really. My posts get a few recs, but far fewer than many other posters.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#56
I comment on named DUers also	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#78
I do not troll on DU. Ever. nt	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#97
All those dog whistles make it into your posts by accident?	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#104
ALL true K&R!	patrice	Jan 2013	#28
Sen. Tom Harkin does not agree.	WilliamPitt	Jan 2013	#30
And I think Harkin's wrong, too.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#34
Excellent post, MineralMan!	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#33
Gosh, us of lesser understanding are so please with	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#35
Sarcasm works better when it's spelled correctly,	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#39
Gosh, thanks again.	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#41
A celebration of defeat, uh?	earthside	Jan 2013	#37
You'll forgive me, I'm sure,	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#40
Oh my, not the expatriates!	NoOneMan	Jan 2013	#45
Mineral Man has so much more knowlege than current Congressional Democrats, that we look forward	canoeist52	Jan 2013	#48
Another name I'm not familiar with. Thanks	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#51
There must have been something added to the bill that made dems vote no. Hopefully new one coming	judesedit	Jan 2013	#49
"doomsayer" is just a synonym for "realist". nt	Speck Tater	Jan 2013	#53
No, you know, it's not.	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#58
Most got accomplished in the first 2 years where we had the majority. There is no evidence to back	still_one	Jan 2013	#57
K&R	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#76
As always,the haters just see bad of everything, instead of looking ahead.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#79
Who are they?	JoeDuck	Jan 2013	#82
it is all coming from the usual quarters	arely staircase	Jan 2013	#86
Someone sent a bullshit alert on your post	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#87
Thanks. Someone always alerts on	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#96
mine too	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#98
GREAT JOB!!!!........You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!	Pauldg47	Jan 2013	#88
Daily temper tantrum	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#99
I recc'd this	BootinUp	Jan 2013	#100
You Are Correct Sir... We Should Exept Everything That Is Said... At Face Value...	WillyT	Jan 2013	#101

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