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Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. Or, it doesn't
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:33 AM
Jan 2013
Two months ago, we pointed out in our story on flu in The Atlantic that the antiviral drug Tamiflu might not be as effective or safe as many patients, doctors, and governments think. The drug has been widely prescribed since the first cases of H1N1 flu surfaced last spring, and the U.S. government has spent more than $1.5 billion stockpiling it since 2005 as part of the nation’s pandemic preparedness plan.

Now it looks as if our concerns were correct, and the nation may have put more than a billion dollars into the medical equivalent of a mirage. This week, the British medical journal BMJ published a multi-part investigation that confirms that the scientific evidence just isn’t there to show that Tamiflu prevents serious complications, hospitalization, or death in people that have the flu. The BMJ goes further to suggest that Roche, the Swiss company that manufactures and markets Tamiflu, may have misled governments and physicians. In its defense, Roche stated that the company “has never concealed (or had the intention to conceal) any pertinent data.”

The BMJ’s investigation began innocently enough, with an update of a review by the Cochrane Collaboration, a widely-respected international consortium of researchers who periodically examine the medical literature to assess the safety and effectiveness of various treatments. Roche has claimed that its drug reduces hospital admissions by 61% in patients who were otherwise healthy before they got the flu. It has also said that Tamiflu reduces such complications as bronchitis, pneumonia, and sinusitis by 67%, and lower respiratory tract infections requiring antibiotics by 55%. A 2006 Cochrane review of Tamiflu came to similar conclusions—based largely on a paper that looked at ten studies, all of them funded by the company.

But when the Cochrane team, led by Chris Del Mar, from Bond University in Australia, re-examined the studies they had previously used in 2006, they found some discrepancies. It turned out that only two of the ten studies had ever been published in medical journals, and those two showed the drug had very little effect on complications compared to a dummy pill, or placebo. So the Cochrane reviewers decided to look at the data for themselves.

(much more including links to BMJ article at link)
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/12/the-truth-about-tamiflu/307801/

Sounds like ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome). TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
That dont sound donco Jan 2013 #2
I just keep hearing how bad Control-Z Jan 2013 #4
It can be the flu. It happens more often than you would think. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #14
Everyone is "healthy prior to their illness"... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #3
I have been reading some crazy stuff bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #5
That was for psychiatric problems... dkf Jan 2013 #6
Tamiflu is an antiviral pharmaceutical. Flu vaccine is a biological. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #8
Thanks bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #13
Nothing condescending about it. You're reading too much into it. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #18
Your first line would have been sufficient enough bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #20
They can't feel superior if they don't get that personal jab in, ya know! RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #21
I am beginning to realize that.. n/t bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #22
Well, here's the thing... GaYellowDawg Jan 2013 #25
. Orrex Jan 2013 #26
So, if I decide I don't want a flu vaccine bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #27
Tamiflu isn't a vaccine. jeff47 Jan 2013 #9
Or, it doesn't Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #19
It happens because NO vaccine is 100% effective, and because kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #7
We don't know what killed her. She could have had a flu strain that pnwmom Jan 2013 #11
Yes I understand the vaccine is hit or miss... dkf Jan 2013 #12
It is scary. A physician I know lost his son that way. He thought the boy pnwmom Jan 2013 #10
You are so right...go with your gut. dkf Jan 2013 #16
We just finished a round of Tamiflu with my granddaughter Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #15
People dont die from the flu, they usually die from complications davidn3600 Jan 2013 #17
One of my kids was horribly sick from the flu gollygee Jan 2013 #23
The flu vaccine is about 60% effective Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #24
What they've been saying lately pipi_k Jan 2013 #28
A little surprised by the lack of questions about tamiflu's role in all of this apples and oranges Jan 2013 #29
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