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Response to twins.fan (Reply #57)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:43 PM

58. If repeating the meme that I hate white people and Southerners makes this easier for you, fine.

(And I would not want you to see my birth certificate, if you think I have such prejudices. Of course, I guess you could then accuse me of a form of self-loathing.)

But all of your smears, all of your stereotypes, are not relevant to the premise of the H-1B visa and all of the other work visas that are used to replace US workers... - I already said I don't like those temporary work visas. If you feel the need to continue to accuse me in this regard then your reading comprehension needs some work.

So you are for immigration but consider Canada and Australia (and Germany and Sweden?) as 'irrational' for embracing immigration. (And the fact that these countries are smaller could just as easily have motivated them to be even more concerned and restrictive about immigration than a big country like the US, if they feared immigration as you do.)

Immigrants each year to the US represent about 0.3% of our population. In Canada immigrants total about 0.8% of their population each year. In Australia the figure is 0.7%. Would you accept these higher immigration rates if we also had progressive labor policies and strong safety nets like Canadians and Australians. Or do you just not want such high rates of immigration regardless?

Our immigration is already much more restrictive than in many progressive countries, but does not seem to have benefited our working class. Even more restrictive immigration laws are unlikely to make it any better. Restrictive immigration didn't work in the US when the republicans tried it in the 1920's and progressive countries know that it does not work today. The answer must lie elsewhere.

If you consider progressive countries 'irrational' for their policies, you are entitled to your opinion. There may not be much we can learn about progressive government from Afghanistan but I expect we might learn a thing or two from Germany, Sweden or Canada. Unless you think that not only are history and statistics irrelevant to the discussion, but the reality of the policies followed by progressive governments in the world today, as well.

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