Reply #74

In the discussion thread: Carlos Miller gets roughed up again in Miami for taking pictures [View all]

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:18 PM

csziggy (14,216 posts)

74. THANK YOU!

After reading post after post about Carlos Miller inciting his arrest, it is wonderful to have some FACTS posted with links.

Miller's actions were not illegal. Harassment, assault and battery by corporate cops (50 State Security Services Inc is the name of the security firm whose "officers" attacked Mr. Miller - http://50state.com/) is illegal.

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
Carlos Miller gets roughed up again in Miami for taking pictures [View all]	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	OP
I don't see the rationale for Carlos's antics.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#1
Yeah. He would have been better off if he just kept his mouth shut	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#3
A set-up is weak....It has no impact...	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#4
You are assuming he was setting it up	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#6
I assume nothing.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#9
I guess I'm going to have to watch again...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#11
Still do not see it...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#14
Let me guess, MLK Jr. was an attention-whore, making a "setup" in Selma?	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#97
Have you no shame?	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#103
What's shameful about it.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#106
My point is how Carlos set-up the confrontation for his own gains.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#117
I don't see a "setup" here...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#7
What setup are you referring to?	EOTE	Jan 2013	#67
Sounds to me like you need to get your laws/facts sorted out...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#5
Carlos went there for a confrontation...He wanted this to happen deliberately...it was his mission.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#8
You know this how from that video?	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#10
None of this was unprompted by Carlos...	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#15
He filmed what rules? No smoking?	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#17
Even if everything you say is true ... so what?	baldguy	Jan 2013	#12
I place a set-up like this under the	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#18
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#19
I think they are upset the entire ecounter is on video	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#21
That's usually how it works...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#25
No....	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#30
So the guards were in on it?	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#31
Disturbing to you	demwing	Jan 2013	#35
It is a manipulative video.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#38
Maybe you're just better than everyone else	demwing	Jan 2013	#42
Don't expect these authoritarian fuckstains to have the capacity for making sense.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#92
What about Rosa Parks? Did you know that she planned what she did on that bus?	proud2BlibKansan	Jan 2013	#110
Oh, that's right, this was a planned confrontation!	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#111
Remember when Carlos was a hero here on DU?	proud2BlibKansan	Jan 2013	#112
I think of him as a hero.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#114
What was his DU nom de plum?	senseandsensibility	Jan 2013	#118
Raging in Miami	proud2BlibKansan	Jan 2013	#120
Again - SO WHAT? If anything, self promotion is protected by the 1st Amendment.	baldguy	Jan 2013	#26
It is protected.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#34
Just admit you don't like Carlos	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#36
You read way too much into my posts.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#39
Oh bullshit, they punked themselves	Downtown Hound	Jan 2013	#104
That was the point I was going to make.	RC	Jan 2013	#52
We don't know if he was arrested from the video.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#27
And cops arresting people for violating non-existant laws isn't abuse or entrapment?	baldguy	Jan 2013	#28
Freedom is not a trap	demwing	Jan 2013	#98
Yes, it's so inconvenient for the authorities when someone has a video of them misbehaving	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#13
Never doubt DU's ability to side with authority.	TransitJohn	Jan 2013	#24
Seems DU IS on the right side of this	demwing	Jan 2013	#37
I'm not siding with authorities....	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#41
Yes, you are siding with the authorities	muriel_volestrangler	Jan 2013	#49
Are you fucking serious	trumad	Jan 2013	#16
The video rules by the Metro are not where my grief lies at the moment...	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#20
Answer the fucking question	trumad	Jan 2013	#22
Read my posts...	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#32
so he should have been arrested?	trumad	Jan 2013	#51
you just referred to the rules and now won't say which ones	CreekDog	Jan 2013	#77
You and others are addressing rules	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#79
you did address the rules, but now are wishing that post would go away	CreekDog	Jan 2013	#80
I see Carlos's video as a manlipution.	FarPoint	Jan 2013	#99
Your being assumptive. Fail. Opinion by your own logic you should be arrested for PUI.	Ellipsis	Jan 2013	#102
WHAT RULES AGAINST VIDEO/PHOTOGRAPHY?!	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#23
From the Miami-Dade County Metrorail website:	Comrade_McKenzie	Jan 2013	#29
Key words	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#33
More accurately, the security guards had no way of knowing, and assumed the worst.	Robb	Jan 2013	#44
I'd say he's educating people about police brutality and repression effectively enough. n/t	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#95
Don't see any references to any video recording or photography for "Personal Use" there.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2013	#45
Lol, no.	Daniel537	Jan 2013	#108
It is not legal to take pictures in the subway in NYC and many mass transit places in the US & world	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#40
Post a link to the NYC law about pictures of the subway being illegal. Because...	Logical	Jan 2013	#46
See my #62	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#63
What about in Miami? The incident took place in Miami	quinnox	Jan 2013	#47
That's false, just not true. Here is a list of most US cities and their regs, NY included	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2013	#61
Here is the link: http://gothamist.com/2005/01/07/the_history_of_taking_pictures_on_the_subway.php	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#62
Wow, that is 7 years old. Here is the real truth and the real link to the MTA rules......	Logical	Jan 2013	#113
Standing up for his rights, what an asshole! LOL n-t	Logical	Jan 2013	#43
Carlos is a former DUer...He's legit	Blue_Tires	Jan 2013	#68
RagingInMiami is still a registered member here...	countryjake	Jan 2013	#88
The cops forced the confrontation.	immoderate	Jan 2013	#78
Remember when you were afraid to photograph your own country? It was not that long	2on2u	Jan 2013	#2
What a moron.	greytdemocrat	Jan 2013	#48
explain please	trumad	Jan 2013	#50
This post was hidden by jury decision.	greytdemocrat	Jan 2013	#54
This post was hidden by jury decision.	trumad	Jan 2013	#57
Ahhh, so you support arresting people who annoy you.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#73
What law did Carlos break?	GoneOffShore	Jan 2013	#82
How so?	Heidi	Jan 2013	#53
Carlos is an old DUer	Generic Other	Jan 2013	#55
LOL...Here's another that defends his rights	snooper2	Jan 2013	#60
Here's some truth: I feel less threatened by open carry folks	Heidi	Jan 2013	#65
most people don't know the law, some of them are supposed to enforce it	snooper2	Jan 2013	#66
Public spaces within plain view can be lawfully photographed.	Heidi	Jan 2013	#71
I just like the vidoes	snooper2	Jan 2013	#75
Carlos knows his rights	Generic Other	Jan 2013	#85
Sides? I was just posting vidoes lol	snooper2	Jan 2013	#86
You create a false equivalency	Generic Other	Jan 2013	#91
Blah, they are all youtubers trying to get channel views...	snooper2	Jan 2013	#96
What a staggeringly idiotic comparison. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jan 2013	#101
+1000	Blue_Tires	Jan 2013	#69
For those who don't get why what Carlos Miller is doing is important:	Heidi	Jan 2013	#56
The couple of knuckleheads in this thread who think Carlos deserved this...	trumad	Jan 2013	#58
Not only that, they haven't been on DU long enough to know Carlos	Blue_Tires	Jan 2013	#70
That would require effort, though.	Heidi	Jan 2013	#72
thanks that is a useful reference	quinnox	Jan 2013	#59
THANK YOU!	csziggy	Jan 2013	#74
Isn't it a little hyperbolic to say taking pictures is a constituional right?	randome	Jan 2013	#116
It falls under freedom of expression, and freedom of the press.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#119
No. (nt)	Heidi	Jan 2013	#121
Heck No.	ellisonz	Jan 2013	#124
Absolutely not. N/T	beevul	Jan 2013	#125
Apparentlly	regjoe	Jan 2013	#64
Submit. Obey. Conform. That is the duty of all Good Americans.	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#76
Nice to see Carlos is still giving 'em hell.	Lone_Star_Dem	Jan 2013	#81
I was given a "talking to" Saturday on the DC metro for taking a pic w/iPhone	justiceischeap	Jan 2013	#83
Good to see Carlos still educating the cops and security.	ManiacJoe	Jan 2013	#84
Was his username RaginginMiami?	Rex	Jan 2013	#87
Take a look at this thread and guess!	countryjake	Jan 2013	#89
I am trying to avoid the sub-thread war.	Rex	Jan 2013	#90
Here:	ellisonz	Jan 2013	#123
Thank you.	Rex	Jan 2013	#127
K&R for Carlos. N/T	beevul	Jan 2013	#93
+1 n/t	X_Digger	Jan 2013	#115
This is what MALFEASANCE looks like	Hutzpa	Jan 2013	#94
I guessed that the submit-obey-conform crowd would be all over this, and look.. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jan 2013	#100
DU's own Right Wing Authoritarians.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#105
Yep. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jan 2013	#107
+1. Absofuckinglutely correct...	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2013	#122
And thouroughly disgusting. N/T	beevul	Jan 2013	#126
Stanley Milgram and Philip Zimbardo would not be a bit surprised:	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2013	#128
This message was self-deleted by its author	Daniel537	Jan 2013	#109
Hey guys,	RagingInMiami	Jan 2013	#129
Meh, screw the authoritarians. Rock on. n/t	X_Digger	Jan 2013	#130
Rage on Carlos!	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#131

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