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In reply to the discussion: Stevie Wonder says he will go buy a gun to show the ridiculousness of the laws!! [View all]slackmaster
(60,567 posts)81. Buying a firearm in California is more than twice as much hassle as it is in Virginia.
rich people can't buy guns in CA?
A firearm dealer has told me that he has had to deny sales to people because they couldn't produce the documents required to prove residence in the state.
i think his point was, he'd have to get a friend to drive him to a wal-mart in almost any state, where he could buy a gun easily.
If that was his point, he was mistaken.
i think the answer to why cops have bigger guns is fairly self-explanatory. like protecting themselves and others.
Many people who are not police officers own firearms for defense of themselves and their families.
A firearm dealer has told me that he has had to deny sales to people because they couldn't produce the documents required to prove residence in the state.
i think his point was, he'd have to get a friend to drive him to a wal-mart in almost any state, where he could buy a gun easily.
If that was his point, he was mistaken.
i think the answer to why cops have bigger guns is fairly self-explanatory. like protecting themselves and others.
Many people who are not police officers own firearms for defense of themselves and their families.
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Stevie Wonder says he will go buy a gun to show the ridiculousness of the laws!! [View all]
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
OP
I had to rec this just for Stevie's music. He made my early years just a bit more bearable.
Systematic Chaos
Jan 2013
#1
It would be a long video - At least 20 minutes for actually buying the gun plus another segment...
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#15
No, because he lives in California it would be exactly the same at a gun show.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#20
I think the laws in California are stricter than they need to be. Some of them seem to be there...
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#30
Yes, in fact I do agree on background checks on all sales. The present system doesn't allow it.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#33
It is already the law for gun dealers to run checks, whether it's at a gun show or elsewhere
Kennah
Jan 2013
#111
nobody has to even show an ID in AZ, so...a cali resident can go next door or to craigslist
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#61
Why would he go all the way to Idaho or Arizona to make an illegal purchase, when he could easily...
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#62
you should have said 'a cali resident can buy a gun in MANY other states'
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#63
Because the point is what can and cannot be done LEGALLY, which is the real topic of this thread.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#64
yes, the point is what can be done legally is bad enough to allow 40% of sales illegally
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#65
The context of the discussion is what can be done legally in California by a California resident.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#66
Buying a firearm in California is more than twice as much hassle as it is in Virginia.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#81
You are very persistent in conflating legal transactions with unlawful ones
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#121
I think anyone who thinks the police must necessarily be better armed than the general public...
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#136
Blind people play many sports that might surprise you. I knew a blind guy who slaughtered on the
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#56
if you read stats on how most people use guns in the home, he can't be any worse.
yurbud
Jan 2013
#6
As long as he's not a member of a prohibited class of people, he has every right to buy one
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#12
Or he could just go to Arizona and buy one of the street from anyone. He can buy a Barrett 50 cal
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#19
You're jumping all over the place here. In your last post in this sub-thread you wrote about buying
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#87
He may have SAID he can buy a gun easily, but he hasn't DEMONSTRATED that he can do so.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#110
no, i demonsrated how easy it is for him to buy one, and you refuse to admit it
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#112
I am legally blind in one eye with or without correction. The other corrects to 20/20.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#38
Yes, but that doesn't relieve him of any of the obstacles I describe in reply #12
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#17
Slim to none in most states. Ditto on getting CA-style laws passed in Congress.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#43
Internet sellers will not ship a firearm to a non-licensee in another state
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#82
your completely false statement that buying a gun on the internet is the same as at a store
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#117
Uh, you didn't post one goddamn thing that is contrary to my statement.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#120
Have you looked in your local newspaper? It's called the Classified Ads.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#124
great. so the BATF should start buying every gun in every ad in the country and melting them
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#128
someone should arrest these cops then-Police destroy guns bought in buyback program
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#132
If they broke the law, well, sucks for them. They should be prosecuted.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#133
why would a bunch of cops announce in the newspaper they were breaking a law???
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#135
So now people with physical disabilities can't own guns? I don't think he sees the real issue, here.
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#29
So then there's no problem with him collecting guns. Someone else can shoot them. nt
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#41
A California resident cannot buy a gun any time they want, almost anywhere, LEGALLY.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#83
It will be very educational for a lot of people, if he documents his experience honestly.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#40
I believe he's going to find that the laws are indeed ridiculous, but not for the reasons he thinks.
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#58
I'm impressed by the number of people yucking it up on the confirmation bias in this thread
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#72
Stevie was the first person who organized me into something political who was outside my family.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#57