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davidpdx

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125. I am as well

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:48 PM

Jan 2013

I've been in Korea for 9 years. You guys have a much better organized Democrats Abroad organization then we do here. *jealous* I think it has to do with the more transitory nature of the people who come here to teach English.

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Mother reports school suggested teen get breast reduction surgery to stop bullies [View all] TalkingDog Jan 2013 OP

Were these guys or girls teasing her about them? Article doesn't say. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #1

Why would it matter? Scuba Jan 2013 #2

DIfferent dynamics. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #4

Again, why would it matter? Scuba Jan 2013 #5

It doesn't, really. I'm just interested in more information on the matter. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #6

The point is that to suggest a child get SURGERY in order to stop bullies is victim-blaming Chorophyll Jan 2013 #11

O.K. n/t OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #14

And how would you stop the bullying? randome Jan 2013 #21

Are you defending the suggestion? morningfog Jan 2013 #26

I'm saying that if the school employee is not a surgeon, how would he/she know... randome Jan 2013 #32

What do surgeons know about school bullying? morningfog Jan 2013 #36

Oh, perhaps by Googling, just as I did. Heidi Jan 2013 #40

Well, most schools barely have pen and paper available. randome Jan 2013 #51

Let's see ... common sense, decency, etc. Bake Jan 2013 #114

can we agree that the solution to other people's behavior is not surgery on the victim? CreekDog Jan 2013 #84

You wouldn't think it would take convincing, wouldja? Scuba Jan 2013 #109

I don't know. Why not suggest the bullies get brain surgery? Chorophyll Jan 2013 #122

No, that official needs to be terminated and barred from kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #106

The official was a switchboard operator. randome Jan 2013 #107

That's entirely irrelevant to the issue. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #7

Great to know that New Zealand is gossiping about Missouri schools. Quantess Jan 2013 #3

Huh? trumad Jan 2013 #17

The person you responded to is a bitter bully themselves davidpdx Jan 2013 #54

Do you know there are ex-patriots who live around the world who are US citizens? davidpdx Jan 2013 #53

That's "expatriates" n/t Tansy_Gold Jan 2013 #55

Thank you. I am a US citizen living abroad, Heidi Jan 2013 #56

I am as well davidpdx Jan 2013 #125

Hi! Quantess Jan 2013 #129

I am a friendly and welcoming DUer in general. Quantess Jan 2013 #130

We might share the same DNA, unfortunately. Quantess Jan 2013 #131

The internet makes it possible treestar Jan 2013 #63

Grown-ups can think about more than one thing at once. Posteritatis Jan 2013 #119

Doesn't Title IX offer some protection and/or recourse? Heidi Jan 2013 #8

It's her word against everybody else's. n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #112

So? (nt) Heidi Jan 2013 #128

Perhaps someone should suggest littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #9

why do we rush to demonize people trying to help? zazen Jan 2013 #10

Re-read your own second paragraph until you figure this out. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #12

Amazing, isn't it. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2013 #47

Here. Let me help with this. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #71

I can't quite see what you're driving at. Orrex Jan 2013 #72

What if the person had a serious birth defect that could be easily remedied by surgery Bandit Jan 2013 #75

Possibly, but that's irrelevant to the current situation Orrex Jan 2013 #79

Here's another excerpt from the article in the OP. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #91

Um. Are you addressing me? Orrex Jan 2013 #97

I was addressing the people in the thread in general. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #102

Cool Orrex Jan 2013 #104

See post 81. n/t backscatter712 Jan 2013 #85

What if it were a boy and the school told him he had to get a circumcision to stop bullying? Squinch Jan 2013 #126

Not everyone wants to live their life as a martyr, you know. randome Jan 2013 #77

I'm sure that their intentions are good. Orrex Jan 2013 #80

I did have to live it. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #81

I agree it is the school's duty and responsibility. No argument from me. randome Jan 2013 #92

Seriously? curlyred Jan 2013 #13

How would you MAKE them stop bullying her? randome Jan 2013 #23

Why do YOU ask that as if the breast reduction surgery idea is legitimate? morningfog Jan 2013 #27

Because I'm not a surgeon. Other than getting info on DU about it... randome Jan 2013 #30

Whether one is a surgeon has nil to do with bullying morningfog Jan 2013 #35

I know. I agree. How can the bullying be stopped? randome Jan 2013 #43

How else? Punish the bully. Up to and through suspension and expulsion if it doesn't stop. morningfog Jan 2013 #58

Agree. But like Recursion pointed out, that requires the teachers to be out and monitoring the kids. randome Jan 2013 #61

Exactly. It's the teachers' and staffers' jobs to be watching the kids and stopping bullying. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #73

Expecting practical advice from a switchboard operator is probably not for the best, either. randome Jan 2013 #94

Yeah, that switchboard operator should have stifled it. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #103

Or maybe simply 'ignorant'. Not knowing who this person is... randome Jan 2013 #105

Then we're in agreement. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #113

Punish her. Jesus, why is this hard for you? morningfog Jan 2013 #29

yes it is, on this and many issues CreekDog Jan 2013 #87

Expel without exception anyone who does Recursion Jan 2013 #49

Finally some sensible suggestions. randome Jan 2013 #50

Threaten them with breast reduction? treestar Jan 2013 #66

or if the bullies are boys, breast augmentation... n/t backscatter712 Jan 2013 #83

by making THEM STOP CreekDog Jan 2013 #86

Why are you arguing with me? I agree that's best. randome Jan 2013 #93

And your ethically-parallel solution to bullying students because they're gay would be...? LanternWaste Jan 2013 #111

There's a whole range of options up to and including expulsion. Posteritatis Jan 2013 #118

Expell them. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #123

Thirteen years old and you recommend surgery? curlyred Jan 2013 #127

The child is 13 years old. Mammoplastiy is not usually performed Heidi Jan 2013 #16

I'm beginning that some here simply are not to bright. trumad Jan 2013 #18

Good morning, trumad. Heidi Jan 2013 #19

that's preposterous zazen Jan 2013 #38

The school employee who made the suggestion was a switchboard operator, Heidi Jan 2013 #45

Exactly, some people seem to accept bullying treestar Jan 2013 #67

or maybe they don't think we are that bright CreekDog Jan 2013 #88

Speaking from my own personal experience, even surgery won't stop the bullying. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #90

So the main objection to this is that the school employee is not a surgeon? randome Jan 2013 #24

Wow! Good faith? Incredible. morningfog Jan 2013 #28

I think gray areas aren't too popular here, randome zazen Jan 2013 #41

I know about the gray areas. But I like the give-and-take they provide. randome Jan 2013 #44

Couldn't it at least be the second thought? treestar Jan 2013 #70

Well, we weren't privy to the entire conversation, were we? randome Jan 2013 #76

There are so many reasons why this is inappropriate gollygee Jan 2013 #20

Maybe but the idea now is go after the bully first treestar Jan 2013 #65

Yeah, fuck that. Posteritatis Jan 2013 #117

don't know about the bullying but the health aspects of surgery. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #15

Was she thirteen years old at the time? nt Chef Eric Jan 2013 #22

No she was in her 20s. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #25

It is one thing to choose for oneself, as an adult, to undergo this surgery gollygee Jan 2013 #31

No one 'demanded' a thing. It was a ridiculous suggestion so it should simply be dismissed. randome Jan 2013 #33

Taunting to the point of bullying is "demanding" gollygee Jan 2013 #34

I get your point about the bullies 'demanding'. You're right. randome Jan 2013 #42

Well it isn't an issue of educating about this surgery gollygee Jan 2013 #46

So more school discussions about bullying would help? That sounds right to me. randome Jan 2013 #48

Well it's even more unseen gollygee Jan 2013 #82

So now you need to see her breasts to evaluate morningfog Jan 2013 #37

No, I don't need to see anything. randome Jan 2013 #39

I have difficulty believing that the suggestion was made in innocent ignorance Orrex Jan 2013 #59

As it turns out, it was a switchboard operator who made the suggestion. randome Jan 2013 #60

Whoops--I edited after you'd already started your reply Orrex Jan 2013 #62

I suppose it depends on whether one sees the comment as 'inappropriate' or 'ignorant'. randome Jan 2013 #69

That actually happened to a classmate of mine in the early 1970's. Although she was also having back catbyte Jan 2013 #52

Sounds like the school employee also needs surgery Orrex Jan 2013 #57

The school staffperson probably meant well but said something stupid. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #64

He was our supt several years ago proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #68

If only those kids were as non-cliquish and judgemental as the posters here... right? Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #74

Do tell, even if you must do it in Meta, which of us in this thread are cliquish and judgmental. Heidi Jan 2013 #95

Wait, this sounds familiar... rrneck Jan 2013 #78

What are you doing? CreekDog Jan 2013 #89

*sigh* rrneck Jan 2013 #96

Ok, I'll start with your posts CreekDog Jan 2013 #98

Have fun. nt rrneck Jan 2013 #108

I understand that eunuchs are less likely to bully Coyotl Jan 2013 #99

Sweet Jesus. MadrasT Jan 2013 #100

Highly inappropriate of the school. MineralMan Jan 2013 #101

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #110

As a teacher, LWolf Jan 2013 #115

I have had breast reduction surgery for the same reasons that you mentioned. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #120

If my personal economy LWolf Jan 2013 #121

The school shouldn't have suggested the surgery. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #116

If they want to recommend lopping off body parts, why not the bullies'? Matariki Jan 2013 #124