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50. Besides the FBI saying that aggravated assaults are down? nt

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"Guns don't kill people." Possibly the most stupid meme ever to be floated by the NRA. [View all] Whovian Jan 2013 OP

"Guns don't kill people" has been around since the invention of guns. Initech Jan 2013 #1

As Charlton Heston said: SCantiGOP Jan 2013 #37

Well, Chuck finally got those "cold, dead hands" he kept blathering about! 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #51

Neither does just about anything else jberryhill Jan 2013 #2

thank you n/t DemocratsForProgress Jan 2013 #10

Which is why ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #15

Oh, but we do. Heidi Jan 2013 #20

So to follow the analogy all the way ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #23

It's not an analogy. It's a rebuttal to your assertion that those items aren't regulated. (nt) Heidi Jan 2013 #30

It was jberryhill's analogy ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #31

"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have baseball bats." or "only have baseball bats...." vanbean Jan 2013 #3

Or maybe steak knives or rocks? Whovian Jan 2013 #4

Or a board with a nail in it! SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #6

Is there any other device that is designed specifically to kill people? loyalsister Jan 2013 #5

Interesting question. ... spin Jan 2013 #8

What? Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #9

The question was ... spin Jan 2013 #13

One difference between a gun and a sword is the ability to run away from a sword. A Simple Game Jan 2013 #17

Most criminals can't hit the broad side of a barn with a gun. ... spin Jan 2013 #69

I was looking for something manufactured in today's world. loyalsister Jan 2013 #71

Swords are still manufactured in today's world. ... spin Jan 2013 #83

LOL loyalsister Jan 2013 #84

You keep refining your question. ... spin Jan 2013 #85

It's true.. I have been loyalsister Jan 2013 #87

I've enjoyed target shooting handguns for over 40 years ... spin Jan 2013 #88

Disco Music? jberryhill Jan 2013 #11

ha! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22

weapons of war? more accurate, but sounds a little dramatic... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #80

Guns don't kill people, Gun Owners® kill people LeftInTX Jan 2013 #7

It will probably get worse. StarryNite Jan 2013 #12

I agree. That scares me and I am a gun owner who has enjoyed target shooting ... spin Jan 2013 #16

Great post. Thanks. Whovian Jan 2013 #18

nice to hear a responsible voice! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24

Your first link was to an unusually fair and honest report on Florida gun owners. ... spin Jan 2013 #82

yep, that article is kind of an eye-opener farminator3000 Jan 2013 #89

Thanks for your words of wisdom, we have to stop the assaults on our citizens Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #54

The past 30 years would argue otherwise hack89 Jan 2013 #19

they'd also argue it has NOTHING to do with more guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #25

So when you have some actual facts let me know. hack89 Jan 2013 #27

a think a general overview is enough to back up the FACT farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29

So you can actually demonstrate a steady increase in gun deaths? hack89 Jan 2013 #33

i can state as a fact that they are way too high and have gone up since the AWB was lifted farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34

So murders down drastically with rate cut in half. hack89 Jan 2013 #35

if you want to call 280 less murders a "drastic" reduction, go ahead, but that makes no sense farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39

How much did the population increase in that 20 years? There is a reason we focus on rates. hack89 Jan 2013 #40

they were flying off the shelf because weirdos were hoarding them farminator3000 Jan 2013 #45

So more assualt weapons did not actually lead to more killings? hack89 Jan 2013 #48

There was a drop in firearm murders of 1450 from 2006 to 2010 alone hack89 Jan 2013 #41

like i keep telling you, that is because of DOCTORS not MORe GUNZ farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46

Besides the FBI saying that aggravated assaults are down? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #50

did they happen to tell you why? maybe call them up and ask. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53

Does it matter - as long as fewer people are being shot hack89 Jan 2013 #56

more people are being shot is what matters, obviously. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #58

Not if aggravated assaults are down. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #61

so 160,000 assaults sounds about right to you? you're good with 438.4 assaults A DAY? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67

We have reduced the rate of aggravated assaults by 60% hack89 Jan 2013 #70

aggravated assault means all of them, not just ones with guns. you keep cherry picking farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72

"the lowest rate since 2004" hack89 Jan 2013 #74

great, getting shot is okay as long as the doctors can save you farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76

I live in a very safe town - danger has nothing to do with why I own guns hack89 Jan 2013 #77

then why are you so stubborn that guns make you safer? how would you even know? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #79

I am not safer because of guns hack89 Jan 2013 #81

If you figure there was 1 gun used in each death, 32,163 firearms used out of 270,000,000 isnt that xoom Jan 2013 #86

i bet medical tech is key arely staircase Jan 2013 #28

The flaw in that analysis is that aggravated assaults are not up hack89 Jan 2013 #36

that would not be consistent with my thesis (based on a hunch), no. arely staircase Jan 2013 #38

why would someone believe you when you don't post a number or link? you are not an expert farminator3000 Jan 2013 #43

I have posted the FBI crime reports many times hack89 Jan 2013 #44

and proved zilcho farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47

Besides aggravated assaults going down, you mean. hack89 Jan 2013 #49

so aggravated assaults are going down because less a-holes have guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #52

But fewer aggravated assaults mean fewer people being shot. hack89 Jan 2013 #55

no, suicide and murder are up, so not really at all. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #57

Murder is down hack89 Jan 2013 #60

stop nitpicking annual death total=up. rate ~ the same. amount of guns=way too many farminator3000 Jan 2013 #62

Those numbers are not homicide deaths. hack89 Jan 2013 #64

again with the 1993 thing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #66

I just showed you a decline every year from 2006 to 2010 hack89 Jan 2013 #68

yes, for the 12th time, homicides are down because of DOCTORS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73

You just showed me that aggravated assaults with guns are the lowest in years hack89 Jan 2013 #75

no, you just read bad. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78

It was invented back before they were nuts. JoeyT Jan 2013 #14

i think 'the ONLY thing that stops a bad guy' is even dumber. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #21

I wouldn't mind that phrase if they also offered a solution to people who kill people with guns Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #26

Guns don't kill people, crazy gun owners kill people. goblue316 Jan 2013 #32

I have exercised my fingers many times and no one died from it. Also never saw report reading Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #65

I understand that "guns don't kill people" was originally used as a safety mantra taught by okaawhatever Jan 2013 #42

As far as I'm concerned wryter2000 Jan 2013 #59

Why do these guns keep killing people....why? ileus Jan 2013 #63