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2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
199. Hmmm
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jan 2013

some thoughts on the religious portions and what that meant...

It is tradition that the prayers and all that be presented as it satisfies the need for the religious to recognize this a solemn event, they wouldn't be able to accept it otherwise I guess. I don't care for it but I'm willing to overlook it so long as religion isn't the purpose in governing, if I want the religious to accept my traditions, I have to respect theirs. Think of it as the one compromise you are willing to make.

And to be clear, I do not subscribe to any organized religion but as a classical vocal performer (at times) I have performed Mass so many times I can't count them all. And a variety of other religious things like oratorios and the like.

For some people, a ceremony is not legit unless they call on god to bear witness too... whatever... but when they start insisting that I practice their beliefs in all my activities, then I have a problem. I do believe in separation of church and state and I would really like to see the zealots keep their religion to themselves when performing the peoples' business and writing legislation.

That being said, what was clearly noticeable was that the performers and actuaries of the ceremony looked like the population at large, not just wrinkled old white guys denoting that change will have to wait for them to die off. I thought it was a great speech the president made and I am thrilled that he called out the haters and the obstructionists on their BS. And I'm thankful that he won the election.

GUNS! NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
Woohoo lonestarnot Jan 2013 #4
VIDEO! ellisonz Jan 2013 #162
Thank you madokie Jan 2013 #201
James Taylor and then the B-Man! Botany Jan 2013 #2
What a wonderful day for America Politicub Jan 2013 #3
Am I the only one in tears??? I'm so happy! jillan Jan 2013 #5
Mitch McConnell is crying big time today Coyotl Jan 2013 #10
Was McConnell absent from the ceremony? vlyons Jan 2013 #202
There's something in my eyes. HappyMe Jan 2013 #12
There are tears ellisonz Jan 2013 #13
I'm part of the tissue brigade too! Politicub Jan 2013 #17
Crying since the first glimpse of the First Family this morning... CherokeeDem Jan 2013 #26
I cried too shenmue Jan 2013 #185
I don't think I've ever seen him so confident and comfortable. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #6
Here comes the address! NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #7
Mr President!!! blaze Jan 2013 #8
Here comes the good stuff ellisonz Jan 2013 #9
"a never ending journey" patrice Jan 2013 #11
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness Politicub Jan 2013 #14
Too much religion. And don't need any kind of weapons. HERVEPA Jan 2013 #15
we made ourselves anew patrice Jan 2013 #16
How quickly we forget that the USA was ALL SLAVE to begin with. Coyotl Jan 2013 #18
++++++++1 patrice Jan 2013 #22
and there are those who want to take us back. nc4bo Jan 2013 #23
I dunno about that. My Puritan ancestors never had any slaves. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #175
Your Puritan ancestors were not living in the USA, they invaded the Native Nations! Coyotl Jan 2013 #187
Sounds a little bit... Lars39 Jan 2013 #19
fidelity to our founding principles requires new responsibilities patrice Jan 2013 #20
The echo of the wind against these words is stunning! ellisonz Jan 2013 #21
America demands reinvention in every generation Politicub Jan 2013 #24
economic recovery has BEGUN patrice Jan 2013 #25
"My fellow Americans, we are made for this moment, and we will seize it... ellisonz Jan 2013 #27
Posting early morning from Melbourne Australia Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #28
"States" Lars39 Jan 2013 #32
Yeah he didn't say the "s" in United States Phoonzang Jan 2013 #34
When YOU can win the office and stand up there in the cold and deliver kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #183
... sheshe2 Jan 2013 #189
As I saw it, his voice kinda broke. Am I the only one who's ever had that happen? classof56 Jan 2013 #204
when every person can find independence and pride in their work patrice Jan 2013 #29
WTF MSNBC to show yawning Sasha.... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #30
. . . In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #35
I'm sure Fox News will run it a few times Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #36
OMG! An eleven-year-old is bored with adult stuff! GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #163
It was so rude to pan on a tired young girl yawning. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #205
It was IMHO intentional. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #206
Yup. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #208
A decade of war now ends! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #31
"We do not believe that freedom is reserved for the lucky... ellisonz Jan 2013 #33
Crying with joy. gademocrat7 Jan 2013 #37
He's rounding third base and looking toward home! ellisonz Jan 2013 #38
Selma and stonewall Recursion Jan 2013 #39
Stonewall.. gave me goosebumps! OKNancy Jan 2013 #43
Kick pinto Jan 2013 #62
Don't forget Seneca. watrwefitinfor Jan 2013 #173
I heard that trifecta. I surely did. Hekate Jan 2013 #216
calling MLK "a king"= pretty damn sweet farminator3000 Jan 2013 #40
A King who took us to the mountaintop Recursion Jan 2013 #48
You can see tears in his eyes ellisonz Jan 2013 #41
He is firing on all 8 cylinders.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #42
FANTASTIC SPEECH! He's saying so much and so well flamingdem Jan 2013 #49
Our generations task....gay equality, women's rights, right to vote, immigration Lars39 Jan 2013 #44
I love his speeches - he really has a sense that he is speaking for posterity and not just for us, kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #45
I agree. HappyMe Jan 2013 #56
Make children safe... Lars39 Jan 2013 #46
This is a progressive speech bluestateguy Jan 2013 #47
Elaborate? flamingdem Jan 2013 #53
Ed Schultz just agreed with me bluestateguy Jan 2013 #137
Yes the mention of climate change is historic, yes to all you wrote flamingdem Jan 2013 #144
Our journey is not complete as long as people have to wait for hours to vote! (rough quote) Botany Jan 2013 #50
"We cannot treat name-calling as reasoned debate" ellisonz Jan 2013 #51
Shout out for Seneca Falls! JoDog Jan 2013 #52
Yes...and we still have no ERA. nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #210
"...cannot mistake name calling for debate" Lars39 Jan 2013 #54
Fabulous speech!!! Satch59 Jan 2013 #55
Constitutional amendment. NO other way. And it's impossible. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #188
Somebody make me stop crying lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #57
OK I didn't mean Kelly Clarskson... lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #67
LOL DeeDeeNY Jan 2013 #86
Didn't Kelly Clarkson support Ron Paul? SunSeeker Jan 2013 #209
This is the greatest speech of his life Politicub Jan 2013 #58
I'm loving this speech! nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #59
Loving it, too. It was perfect. n/t Misskittycat Jan 2013 #82
Omg...he's calling us citizens!!! Lars39 Jan 2013 #60
SO TRUE! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #77
:happy dance: Lars39 Jan 2013 #88
EXACTLY! Hekate Jan 2013 #217
Look at all those flags wave... ellisonz Jan 2013 #61
Any other President reference gays in their inaugural? Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #63
I think he has his course charted.......I agree, Historic NY Jan 2013 #64
Damn, that speech was wonderful. HappyMe Jan 2013 #65
He just said it all, every last bit of what's on everyone's minds. patrice Jan 2013 #66
Is Kelly Clarkson an Obama supporter? bluestateguy Jan 2013 #68
Ron Paul supporter. jillan Jan 2013 #70
I thought that she'd come out for Rmoney AnnieBW Jan 2013 #72
I thought she blew the roof off the joint BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #84
It was a little too blaring IMHO ellisonz Jan 2013 #75
Not a musician: A contest winner lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #98
Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Patsy Cline, Christina A., Linda Eder,......Yep, not "musicians." WinkyDink Jan 2013 #176
Right. When Kelly runs a large band, writing arrangements, running her own company lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #190
No she said she liked Paul OKNancy Jan 2013 #100
She was a Ron Paul supporter but ended up voting for Obama. catbyte Jan 2013 #200
okay...there goes the waterworks FirstLight Jan 2013 #69
I always thought that should be our national anthem. Love that song too. jillan Jan 2013 #73
It almost was as God Save the King (Queen)... Historic NY Jan 2013 #93
I'm glad BO never just fills the time/air. Every word has weight. nt patrice Jan 2013 #71
GURL, YOU BETTA SANG!!!!!! Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #74
Poet Richard Blanco Lars39 Jan 2013 #76
I am no great fan of Ms Clarkson, but that was wonderful and she was obviously SO excited to be kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #78
Love Chuck... Satch59 Jan 2013 #79
Poet Richard Blanco up now ellisonz Jan 2013 #80
Mentions 20 children gone. Lars39 Jan 2013 #92
I held it together till Blanco mentioned his mom working years so he could be here today! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2013 #197
I have never been able to sit through the poem before. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #212
Good poem, wonderful to have him there Hekate Jan 2013 #218
Better Than His First Speech erpowers Jan 2013 #81
Agree. Watched the 2009 Inauguration on Sat on CSpan. This was better. n/t Misskittycat Jan 2013 #89
Harriet, sweet Harriet... Recursion Jan 2013 #83
Blanco, "crescendoing" . . . VERY! good. nt patrice Jan 2013 #85
KC was surprisingly classy farminator3000 Jan 2013 #87
Blanco, "impossible vocabulary of sorrow" - !!!! patrice Jan 2013 #90
Thank you, Mr. Blanco BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #91
He's very good ellisonz Jan 2013 #95
Yes he is. Enjoying this. n/t PotatoChip Jan 2013 #99
Richard Blanco Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #94
This is a wonderful poem. No further comments. Just listening to this true poet. nt patrice Jan 2013 #96
woo hoo! lovin' the farmer shout out in the poem! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #97
plum blush of dust! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #102
Supreme Court Justice Smurf looks pissed. Robb Jan 2013 #101
That was Beauty -full! patrice Jan 2013 #103
Yes, it was! snacker Jan 2013 #109
Fantastic! erinlough Jan 2013 #112
Beautiful poem Politicub Jan 2013 #104
What an awesome poem. HappyMe Jan 2013 #105
The Benediction will be delivered by Rev. Luis Leon of St. John’s Church, Washington. ellisonz Jan 2013 #106
Benediction: the Rev. Luis Leon of St. John’s Church, Washington. Lars39 Jan 2013 #107
Benediction? What is this, the Church of America? Coyotl Jan 2013 #108
Amen. Wednesdays Jan 2013 #117
I'm afraid I have to agree Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #136
This is a celebration, not a government act. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #193
Hmmm 2naSalit Jan 2013 #199
This benediction is a prayer - which is merely kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #191
oh for pete's sake Hekate Jan 2013 #219
"The plum blush of dusk ... " Botany Jan 2013 #110
A beautiful beautiful line that. I also like the images of his father's hands. Made me cry .... patrice Jan 2013 #132
The man is very good at his craft Botany Jan 2013 #150
It is a craft & like some particularly true crafts, there is "magic" in it, or what others call patrice Jan 2013 #159
hated the poet, loved the prayer, and I'm not religious lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #111
You "hated the poet"? Really? HATED? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #186
Yep. lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #192
I'm a bit late with this post Bluzmann57 Jan 2013 #113
Gay or straight, rich or poor Lars39 Jan 2013 #114
Not so fond of the benediction -- excluding rationalists and nontheists comprehensively. politicat Jan 2013 #115
Some of us humbly regard truth/reality, ALL of it, as "God". nt patrice Jan 2013 #118
Most Americans believe in God bluestateguy Jan 2013 #131
And fifteen percent of us don't. Government is supposed to be secular. politicat Jan 2013 #149
There is no governance at work in this ceremony. It is a celebration. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #195
Actually, I do. Often. To my MotHoR, my Senators and my state reps. politicat Jan 2013 #215
It's not necessary. It's a choice. And this is a celebration, kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #194
I did not feel "excluded" Hekate Jan 2013 #220
I like that prayer. It was honest. nt patrice Jan 2013 #116
I agree. HappyMe Jan 2013 #122
Watch Beyonce blow the clouds out of the sky! HappyMe Jan 2013 #119
blown... Satch59 Jan 2013 #129
She has such a strong beautiful voice. HappyMe Jan 2013 #134
The BEST inaugural poem I've ever heard! hedda_foil Jan 2013 #120
Beyonce is singing the National Anthem ellisonz Jan 2013 #121
What a beautiful rendition of the national anthem Politicub Jan 2013 #123
Agreed Lars39 Jan 2013 #124
BEYONCE NAILED IT!!! NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #125
Biden just checked out Beyonce jeanmarc Jan 2013 #126
And The President got to kiss her :) jillan Jan 2013 #130
She kind of avoided Uncle Joe jeanmarc Jan 2013 #142
lol! flamingdem Jan 2013 #147
SO damn happy Hekate Jan 2013 #127
is our president going to walk now? bettyellen Jan 2013 #128
I presume for at least some of the parade. ellisonz Jan 2013 #135
I love Jimmy and Rosalyn, didn't know that though. Thanks Ell! bettyellen Jan 2013 #151
I learned it on that esteemed source of information, The History Channel the other night ellisonz Jan 2013 #167
I tuned in to watch the Inauguration, but all that was on TV was a church service. stopbush Jan 2013 #133
i know church services, and that sir, was no church service. bettyellen Jan 2013 #143
And nothing compared to past presidents and inaugurations. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #157
have you ever seen or read about an american presidential inaguration? arely staircase Jan 2013 #145
The church service is tomorrow in the National Cathedral. (Are you new to this?) WinkyDink Jan 2013 #179
This is a celebration and not a government activity. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #196
Did you see him take him the whole scene as he got to top of stairs? Satch59 Jan 2013 #138
yes. amazing contrast to the entitled asshole republican attitude. bettyellen Jan 2013 #156
I loved that... snacker Jan 2013 #158
George Will commentary is horrible Lars39 Jan 2013 #139
He said we were NOT a nation of takers. That probably has rw heads spinning. jillan Jan 2013 #153
They're already spewing on facebook flamingdem Jan 2013 #155
Ok, that makes sense. Lars39 Jan 2013 #166
And a lot of bankers laughing. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #184
That means Obama is doing something right bluestateguy Jan 2013 #169
Yep Lars39 Jan 2013 #170
I watched it on C-SPAN 2naSalit Jan 2013 #198
Ha...Newt Gingrinch talking to Al Franken... Phoonzang Jan 2013 #140
Former Speakers probably always get a courtesy invite bluestateguy Jan 2013 #160
I cried through the whole thing. Justpat Jan 2013 #141
You were not alone in your tearful joy! ellisonz Jan 2013 #146
a little more hard nosed here, but definitely choked up. All of it was authentically from patrice Jan 2013 #168
Anyone catch Bill and Hillary? Both looking fantastic! NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #148
That was pretty close to perfect in every way. nt patrice Jan 2013 #152
Rachel Maddow is giddy Politicub Jan 2013 #154
Thank you CSPAN for creating the opportunity for us to have this inauguration to ourselves, without patrice Jan 2013 #161
YES!! This -like other events they covered- is night and day to the network chatterers. History as FailureToCommunicate Jan 2013 #213
The presumption of the other networks in so automatically and completely assuming that they patrice Jan 2013 #214
Boehner and Cantor are such babies. Like spoiled children. Politicub Jan 2013 #164
The President has signed the Inaugaration Commemoration Act and Four Nominations ellisonz Jan 2013 #165
I heard him say flamingdem Jan 2013 #171
They're all going to lunch right now. ellisonz Jan 2013 #172
Obama ate their lunch flamingdem Jan 2013 #181
Yes, I believe he did Hekate Jan 2013 #221
What's next? Is this a good time to walk the dogs??? I don't want to miss anything!!! jillan Jan 2013 #174
GO! the parade starts after 2pm, and there's nothing but a few speeches at end of their lunch in an bettyellen Jan 2013 #177
Thanks bettyellen !!! jillan Jan 2013 #180
of course, jillan! bettyellen Jan 2013 #203
PART THREE! ellisonz Jan 2013 #182
PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE PART THREE ellisonz Jan 2013 #178
What a crowd! And the music of workinclasszero Jan 2013 #207
Look How Far We've Come/Evolved! triplepoint Jan 2013 #211
So many wonderful moments...but for me this one was overwhelming: FailureToCommunicate Jan 2013 #222
thank you for providing a place sad-cafe Jan 2013 #223
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