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petronius

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18. The petition got it right in the big issue, I think, but not the small one
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jan 2013

This is the crux of it:

"...expelling students for a variety of micro-behaviors instead of teaching them those academic skills fails compulsory education's primary goal."

Outlawing RFID tags is not the solution, the petition should be asking for a serious re-examination of how schools implement discipline and control...

Why ? I have to wear on at work, most large employers now require it. reverend_tim Jan 2013 #1
You can leave your job Tien1985 Jan 2013 #2
They are not required 24/7 jberryhill Jan 2013 #3
You don't need tracking technology Tien1985 Jan 2013 #5
"what's to stop the school from tracking students once they leave the grounds?" Thor_MN Jan 2013 #8
From what they are saying Tien1985 Jan 2013 #9
Answer the question jberryhill Jan 2013 #17
Rude much? Tien1985 Jan 2013 #20
Uh, yeah... jberryhill Jan 2013 #21
Or the place right next to it might... Tien1985 Jan 2013 #30
Okay, so moving on to another aspect.... jberryhill Jan 2013 #31
To some extent Tien1985 Jan 2013 #34
What's to stop them when the students leave the grounds? jberryhill Jan 2013 #11
Wouldn't the tracking software alert that one student carries two badges? immoderate Jan 2013 #42
Not if they are Tien1985 Jan 2013 #44
Well, every employer I have had for years now requires them too reverend_tim Jan 2013 #4
You have the choice Tien1985 Jan 2013 #6
So why... jberryhill Jan 2013 #13
So where is the student going to run into a reader off the school grounds, that is connected to the reverend_tim Jan 2013 #35
I grant my son Tien1985 Jan 2013 #41
Excuse me, that's an argument against RFID. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #50
Is this just student IDs with RFID tags in them? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #7
Yes jberryhill Jan 2013 #12
You must be young, I grew up without such disgusting devices, you got flamingdem Jan 2013 #16
sarcasm? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #22
I'll admit the concept of this is new to me but I wouldn't have stood for it flamingdem Jan 2013 #27
MANY retail and other places use them obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #29
I don't really come into contact with those devices much at all flamingdem Jan 2013 #32
If you shop, you have come into contact with them obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #49
I think accouning for students in school can be a good tool in accounting for their safety. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #33
I still think safety schmaftety - the percent change of unsafe isn't worth the loss of freedom flamingdem Jan 2013 #38
It's not an age thing per say Tien1985 Jan 2013 #43
Thanks! I'm glad it's not a generational thing flamingdem Jan 2013 #46
I am 30 years old Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #40
Yes -- we have them at work, too obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #26
bouncing for the noon to morning crowd. NT Trillo Jan 2013 #10
What religious theology is opposed to identification items? This is ridiculous. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #14
something about the mark of the beast - they are coo-coo sammytko Jan 2013 #24
I really do not understand how anyone has an opposition to this on any grounds RB TexLa Jan 2013 #47
The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #51
Excatly how does a form of identification violate this: RB TexLa Jan 2013 #57
RFID chips are not a form of identification and you know this. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #58
Agree, I NEVER would have put up with this when I was in school, disgusting flamingdem Jan 2013 #15
You didn't have a school ID at all? jeff47 Jan 2013 #52
No, not in high school flamingdem Jan 2013 #55
And I got lots of student discounts by having one. jeff47 Jan 2013 #56
We didn't & we would have found it shocking. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #61
The petition got it right in the big issue, I think, but not the small one petronius Jan 2013 #18
What a waste of the White House petition feature RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #19
You mean, gasp, the executive branch of the federal government doesn't set school policy? jberryhill Jan 2013 #23
We have many much larger problems in education. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #25
I don't disagree with RFID in school and work IDs, so no obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #28
No chip is being implanted. This is just more RW nuttery. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #36
You sure couldnt tell iamthebandfanman Jan 2013 #45
Opposing Big Brother is RW nuttery? davidn3600 Jan 2013 #53
not a bid deal...not a big deal...not a big deal... HiPointDem Jan 2013 #37
I am thouroughly disgusted that Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #39
Because I benefit from it jeff47 Jan 2013 #54
bouncing for the late-evening to evening folks. NT Trillo Jan 2013 #48
A few notes on the technology IDemo Jan 2013 #59
Just block the signal Revanchist Jan 2013 #60
Why are expulsions and suspensions dangerous to students, schools, and communities Trillo Jan 2013 #62
"Schools are already prisons" Trillo Jan 2013 #63
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