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Response to cbrer (Reply #40)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:11 PM

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The technological solutions I proposed are viable, and help lower emissions. Today.

No, they increase production to manufacturer the infrastructure, and will only lower emissions after paying back the "carbon debt" provided fossil fuels are not exported to fuel 3rd world development when no longer needed. We do not know this future point will come soon enough to mitigate the worse effects of climate change.


Pray tell what? Revert to low tech. agrarian lifestyles?

Organized decline and decomplexification of our current system would translate into immediate, demonstrable reductions in our emissions (not some far off faith-based point).


It sounds as if you're suggesting burying our heads until the inevitable collapse.

Where we are heading, either we are going to have the growth-obsessed industrial economy pried from our famine-starved grasp, or we are going to have to bury it and shift to something viable. As long as we approach the problems of equality and environmentalism within the context of preserving industrial society, our "solutions" are going to continue to fall short.

If no future is better than a future where we all have less and don't bury our nose in iPhone's, then these type of ideas are probably not very attractive. In any case, lets face facts and all know clearly where we are going. There will be no egalitarian techno-utopia that allows us to avert the next 100 years of consequences. If you are ok continuing down this road, lets not fool ourselves that we are doing it for a greater cause. If you are not ok with it, we need to bring civilization back to the drawing board immediately.

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