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Toucano

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57. And both lies got standing ovations

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:50 PM

Jan 2012

Which made the whole event look like a picnic at the mental ward.

Washington is completely detached from reality.

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The speech STARTED with two big lies [View all] Bonobo Jan 2012 OP

That's classified information. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #1

Actually, more like false information, since he never said either of those things. TheWraith Jan 2012 #53

It is what it is and it's done. Did not detract from anything else he said. Why rehash bushitler? lonestarnot Jan 2012 #2

Now that we are basically out of there..... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #3

Continuing the lie is NOT acceptable. Bonobo Jan 2012 #4

+1 Scuba Jan 2012 #12

No it isn't, and should be acceptable... because it sets up a precedent fascisthunter Jan 2012 #24

hmph chervilant Jan 2012 #65

Why do you hate America? guitar man Jan 2012 #5

I questioned that as well. grasswire Jan 2012 #6

Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #7

George Costanza for president! Initech Jan 2012 #8

Serenity now!!! Serenity now!!! FLyellowdog Jan 2012 #9

100% accurate. donheld Jan 2012 #10

Except ProSense Jan 2012 #11

Damn you and your facts ProSense!!1! JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #13

Prosense is way off on this one. But staying with her/his theme. Logical Jan 2012 #29

Actually, ProSense Jan 2012 #32

I would never trust your "analysis" of anything Obama said. Nothing against you but too biased. Logical Jan 2012 #33

Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #35

Your opinion of course is not the truth. But I think you know that already! n-t Logical Jan 2012 #36

The heroes the President mentioned were the troops who were sent to Iraq. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #59

And why are people who sign up for the military automatically heroes? Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #62

Wait, you bolded the exact point if the OP! How did Obama not say that? Logical Jan 2012 #14

Damn you and you logic, Logical!!!!! Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #17

"this generation of heroes" was what he said hfojvt Jan 2012 #50

While I don't often agree with what you say Bohunk68 Jan 2012 #16

How did the troops in Iraq make this country safer and more respected? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #60

That's exactly the point. Bohunk68 Jan 2012 #68

Well, I do understand it, Bohunk. I also understand that no president can sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #69

And how exactly is that different in a meaningful way? Bonobo Jan 2012 #19

Because he said the _ending_ of the war made us safer, not the war. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2012 #23

Ridiculous. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #25

Did it realy make us safer? MinervaX Jan 2012 #26

How many more would be created by continuing the war? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2012 #28

How is the original text essentially different from the Campbell's condensed version? leveymg Jan 2012 #22

Bigger lie "The Taliban’s momentum has been broken" FarCenter Jan 2012 #40

"safer and more respected" progressoid Jan 2012 #52

Agreed. mmonk Jan 2012 #15

USA! USA! Mission Accomplished! Did we find the Ho Chi Minh Trail? Are the Sioux on the run? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #18

LOL mmonk Jan 2012 #20

By the same reasoning, wouldn't another couple wars make us even more "secure" and "respected"? leveymg Jan 2012 #21

I feel Obama is wrong bigwillq Jan 2012 #27

You are correct, Bonobo. hifiguy Jan 2012 #30

Discuss? No DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #31

the desperation grows as it becomes clear he will be in office for 4 more years. dionysus Jan 2012 #34

So does his pandering to the Right-wing - "Mission Accomplished," in other words leveymg Jan 2012 #37

The Cult of Hero Worship for the military is a permanent part of American politics DefenseLawyer Jan 2012 #38

What, you mean there aren't enough anti-war voters to elect him? redqueen Jan 2012 #41

I have no idea what your point is here. DefenseLawyer Jan 2012 #44

I meant that you're right. redqueen Jan 2012 #45

Well said Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #55

OP manufactures a lie about things not said. madamesilverspurs Jan 2012 #39

No, it didn't... SidDithers Jan 2012 #42

Bingo. n/t wakemewhenitsover Jan 2012 #43

The SOTU had some good stuff last night, bvar22 Jan 2012 #46

I don't come around here much anymore. When I pop in and read arguments like this tranche Jan 2012 #47

your listening skills are lacking Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #48

Good catch n/t librechik Jan 2012 #49

But Obama did NOT say "the ending". moodforaday Jan 2012 #56

I was sitting in a group of people for this speech, woo me with science Jan 2012 #51

And that very spin may actually weaken our safety... countryjake Jan 2012 #54

And both lies got standing ovations Toucano Jan 2012 #57

And, continued that way. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #58

The US proudly remains number one in all things military. sad sally Jan 2012 #61

It's a rhetorical trick rudycantfail Jan 2012 #63

Good analysis. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #66

Who won the Iraq war anyway? Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #64

Well... chervilant Jan 2012 #67