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40. I know- but they post a video of Pete Williams saying the handguns were found and not a rifle
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jan 2013

I heard the coroner say it was a 'long gun' at the press conference.

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The rifle Lanza used was neither an assault rifle nor an assault weapon Recursion Jan 2013 #1
correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #4
then how were these children and teachers assaulted? spanone Jan 2013 #10
With a firearm. It's not like "non-assault weapons" are less deadly (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #13
He used a musket, silly. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #88
Gun nutters like to play games with semantics Hugabear Jan 2013 #115
Of course it's semantics. Igel Jan 2013 #147
Ok, so it wouldn't be an "assault weapon" in CT, but it would be in CA Major Nikon Jan 2013 #151
haha Sugarcoated Jan 2013 #159
With a gun. I suspect you already knew that and were being disingenuous. cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #141
A gun that shoots lots of bullets really, really fast without having to reload for a while Sugarcoated Jan 2013 #157
I suppose the answer would be in what CT defines an AW as Marrah_G Jan 2013 #11
No, it's the same. That Bushmaster was legal under the Federal AWB Recursion Jan 2013 #17
Please see the link below Marrah_G Jan 2013 #36
That's the magazine, not the weapon. This is part of the problem Recursion Jan 2013 #39
In Mass, where we still have the original AWB... Marrah_G Jan 2013 #44
Actually it's just the magazine itself that would be illegal Recursion Jan 2013 #47
And this is one of the problems, to be honest Marrah_G Jan 2013 #94
No disagreement there Recursion Jan 2013 #96
Any 30-rd magazine made before 1994 was grandfathered in NickB79 Jan 2013 #144
That is the case in MA Marrah_G Jan 2013 #145
FFS intaglio Jan 2013 #14
Why do you think we keep saying it's a stupid law? Recursion Jan 2013 #19
what filing are you talking about? Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #27
Notionally "filing off" a bayonet lug; I think I said that upthread Recursion Jan 2013 #41
sorry missed that Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #48
Thank you for your contribution to the discourse. 99Forever Jan 2013 #35
You know, a lot of pro-gun control people have constructively engaged with me on this Recursion Jan 2013 #42
I bet that's a relief the kids' parents. progressoid Jan 2013 #76
I doubt it, particularly since we're advocating the wrong thing Recursion Jan 2013 #80
How would you change Feinsteins proposal abelenkpe Jan 2013 #127
I'd ban semi-autos with detachable magazines Recursion Jan 2013 #128
Good to know! abelenkpe Jan 2013 #131
Thanks for your info. amandabeech Jan 2013 #129
Caliber probably isn't the issue Recursion Jan 2013 #132
"They can fire every time you pull the trigger." amandabeech Jan 2013 #138
"Assault rifle" comes pre-defined. Igel Jan 2013 #149
Good point. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #130
Wow. That is some ugly shit. If all the time and money spent on the creation and production of the Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #153
No one outside the gun community cares about splitting hairs on the definition -- pnwmom Jan 2013 #146
Have Pete show his facts Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #2
Early on nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #3
A lot of things were said early on Recursion Jan 2013 #7
I am sure you are correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #9
The definition is not yours, but the state nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #16
I think this Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #57
And that my dear s about to change nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #72
well it is not just the .223 that the AR-15 can fire Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #126
Yup, and...I know all this. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #133
wasn't it a BB gun? spanone Jan 2013 #5
THey were killed with a Bushmaster malaise Jan 2013 #6
Which is neither an assault rifle nor an assault weapon (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #8
Go tell that the parents who had to watch their children's bodies blown to bits malaise Jan 2013 #18
Does tragedy change the meaning of words? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #24
The Bushmaster is an assault rifle n/t malaise Jan 2013 #31
No. You can't just redefine things. Recursion Jan 2013 #43
Go tell that to the NRA n/t malaise Jan 2013 #46
Recusion is making a valid point markpkessinger Jan 2013 #68
Yes, well we've been hearing this "point" from the gun proliferates for some time Major Nikon Jan 2013 #152
They would depend on how AW is being defined Marrah_G Jan 2013 #21
so Lanza had to pull the trigger for each bullet fired? Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #25
Sure, but that's true for assault weapons too. Recursion Jan 2013 #33
correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #58
However Much It Looks Like One, Sir.... The Magistrate Jan 2013 #28
I grant that point, I just think marketers will always find a way to meet that Recursion Jan 2013 #45
What Interests Me, Sir, Is The Window It Opens Into Motivation The Magistrate Jan 2013 #52
It's a talisman for everybody, I'll grant Recursion Jan 2013 #59
The Point You Seem To Be Sliding Over, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #83
Thought experiment: ban all features except the pistol grip Recursion Jan 2013 #134
The culture you attack manifests itself in many ways, not just in the choice amandabeech Jan 2013 #140
It needs to be Politicalboi Jan 2013 #29
That is a *great* idea, and it's not what any proposed AWB has ever done Recursion Jan 2013 #38
what if you made the time for max rounds fired 1 minute? arely staircase Jan 2013 #81
It's a thought; you're going to wind up in the same place, though, I think Recursion Jan 2013 #85
but the semi-autos with detachable magazines would be legal or illegal depending arely staircase Jan 2013 #93
Who cares what it looks like Recursion Jan 2013 #95
it was a semi-automatic rifle Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #15
Once again, same muzzle velocity nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #20
That's a fair point, and one no legislator has deemed worthy of consideration Recursion Jan 2013 #49
Centerfire rifles are just about all hunting rifles. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #64
And significantly more deadly Recursion Jan 2013 #65
You want a clean kill on the deer. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #70
There is a slight difference. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #61
Yup, why we have seen bad guys take magazines nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #67
It's unclear what the first point is. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #75
Really? We have seen these civilian versions nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #79
Some of the civilian versions use 5.56 NATO chambered barrels. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #84
In the middle of a shoot out nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #86
Thats unlikely. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #125
Hmm, hum, I know we all had a hell of an nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #135
Really?? Is that your final answer? Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #154
Yes, that is my final answer. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #155
From your link..... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #156
Keep going. See post #84 NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #158
No, I'm not making your point as well. IF you bothered to click my links Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #162
My comprehension is just fine. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #163
I'll take the doctor's word over yours thanks n/t malaise Jan 2013 #22
The doctor never said it was an assault rifle or assault weapon Recursion Jan 2013 #50
He did malaise Jan 2013 #60
He said it was the rifle. And the rifle isn't an assault rifle or an assault weapon. Recursion Jan 2013 #63
The 30 round magazine was legal in CT but would have been illegal under the Fed AWB Marrah_G Jan 2013 #26
No it may not have been illegal Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #62
If the fed ban had stayed in place there wouldn't still be alot of pre-bans around Marrah_G Jan 2013 #98
Initial reporting by the press was especially bad Lurks Often Jan 2013 #12
The Bushmaster was found inside the school pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #53
Where did I say it wasn't? Lurks Often Jan 2013 #78
I don't know or care. Shot in the face is shot in the face. MyNameGoesHere Jan 2013 #23
I agree Politicalboi Jan 2013 #37
I completely agree Recursion Jan 2013 #91
I think you've really hit on something here. bunnies Jan 2013 #122
Not perfectly. CDC research can help Recursion Jan 2013 #123
Crank up the Youtube, my friend. tantric calvinist Jan 2013 #30
I know- but they post a video of Pete Williams saying the handguns were found and not a rifle Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #40
One kid was shot 11 times. 11 times. If that is not an assault rifle, than I don't know what is. jillan Jan 2013 #32
I'll join you in banging my head malaise Jan 2013 #34
Being an assault weapon has *nothing* to do with how many bullets a gun can fire. Nothing. Recursion Jan 2013 #54
CT State Police: UPDATE on weapons used (1/18/13) pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #51
thank you!!! Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #55
You're welcome, Beaverhausen pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #150
Good catch, thanks! Recursion Jan 2013 #56
I remember the State Police Sargeant speaking to the public... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #71
Sophism and obscurantism gulliver Jan 2013 #66
Thank you. ananda Jan 2013 #73
name calling Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #136
*WE'RE THE ONES WHO WROTE THE LAW* Recursion Jan 2013 #77
Easy there, pardner. No need to shout. gulliver Jan 2013 #111
I can't agree with the last sentence. The AWB is by nature weak Recursion Jan 2013 #112
More likely it would be YOU that was fired, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #89
I'll take my chances. gulliver Jan 2013 #113
Don't Be Fooled. The Gun Activists Are Trying To Control The Vocabulary, And Thus The Argument. Paladin Jan 2013 #69
It wasn't "gun activists" who introduced the term "assault weapons", though Recursion Jan 2013 #74
I have not seen one person Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #107
And I Have Seen Any Number Of DU Gun Control Advocates..... Paladin Jan 2013 #119
There has been a lot of frustration Recursion Jan 2013 #124
What you say is certainly true, but ... markpkessinger Jan 2013 #90
When we bring up bayonet lugs and such... Recursion Jan 2013 #92
I absolutely agree markpkessinger Jan 2013 #99
This Is An Online Discussion Site. It Is Not A Senate Mark-up Session. Paladin Jan 2013 #108
I don't condone pouncing on magazine vs. clip Recursion Jan 2013 #109
Suits Me. Paladin Jan 2013 #118
Me too Recursion Jan 2013 #120
Just more reason to outright ban 100% of all weapons/bullets in the streets graham4anything Jan 2013 #82
someone posted this yesterday sasha031 Jan 2013 #87
nuances are used when all other sane arguments are bankrupt samsingh Jan 2013 #97
Better still ban all guns that look, act, fire like the one used for the massacre samsingh Jan 2013 #100
It's an interesting idea. Ban that literal form factor? Recursion Jan 2013 #101
let's get rid of the arguments around nuance samsingh Jan 2013 #104
Oh, then you want to ban handguns Recursion Jan 2013 #105
I believe the Connecticut police have not completed their final report jberryhill Jan 2013 #102
You must have missed post #51 n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #103
Why? jberryhill Jan 2013 #106
I never knew... deathrind Jan 2013 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jan 2013 #121
That is because it is a report from right after the event when the media was FUBAR ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #114
It was a blunderbuss, wasn't it? longship Jan 2013 #116
I suppose that when the time comes Turbineguy Jan 2013 #117
This meme is the result of very shoddy initial reporting. wercal Jan 2013 #137
Appallingly shoddy. Remember the stuff about his mom being a teacher? Recursion Jan 2013 #139
My nomination for worst reporting would be for: wercal Jan 2013 #143
They play with words Special Agent Oso Jan 2013 #142
Everything you might need here at this link. Separation Jan 2013 #148
And thus they make the case for banning ALL guns. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #160
They use a news clip from the morning after the shooting AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #161
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #164
no that's the BS he ISN'T looking for farminator3000 Jan 2013 #165
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