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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
230. one small issue
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jan 2013

if you kill a soldier, you remove one from the fight. If you wound that same soldier you take 3-4 out of the fight. That is the reason for that as well smaller round equals more ammo that can be carried and the distance that fighting occurred was at a much shorter range than was thought after combat studies were done.

Well said. If I encounter someone carrying a rifle slung over their shoulder in a store I will drop peacebird Jan 2013 #1
In this age when people walk into places like theaters and schools and just shoot away... bulloney Jan 2013 #11
I'd like to think I would plow into him and take him down UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #43
I fi saw him in the parking lot i'd hit him with my car, and elehhhhna Jan 2013 #49
It would be an interesting court case UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #54
You would walk. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #82
And make sure to inform all businesses in the area that you left because you feared harm by it. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #105
You would go to jail. loose wheel Jan 2013 #118
I didn't say it would be worth it, UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #121
No, it wouldn't. Your lawyer would advise you to not go to trial. nt loose wheel Jan 2013 #123
I meant watch. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #129
What if a heavily armed guy gives you a "look" bhikkhu Jan 2013 #162
Don't attempt to read a look. loose wheel Jan 2013 #164
You have replied several times. I am not sure you understand my point. IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #179
That's fine for a five year old loose wheel Jan 2013 #190
Thought About This Some, Have You? Paladin Jan 2013 #188
So nice of you to self identify as a) a gun nut; TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #203
Which prompts the question-- lolly Jan 2013 #265
Not so fast. Not if that law is written explicitly in terms of firearms. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #288
Where does "stand your ground" fit into this? xtraxritical Jan 2013 #280
You have seriously been watching to many Bruce Willis movies... Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #285
I don't own any firearms and never will, xtraxritical Jan 2013 #302
umm did you look where my reply was directed at? It wasnt you. Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #306
You KNOW WHAT I FIND TRULY SICK? TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #201
But it's perfectly fine adieu Jan 2013 #225
It appears it was for a short period of time in that Florida Town. ... spin Jan 2013 #304
Much better to find out he really wasn't a "good guy" lolly Jan 2013 #266
Good thing no one hit any of the recent mass murderers Tunkamerica Jan 2013 #282
Clever sig line. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #305
Please tell the court, Mr UnrepentantLiberal ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #182
A plainclothes police officer? lolly Jan 2013 #267
I drive a school bus and if I saw someone armed like that Pakid Jan 2013 #180
As a parent of a Kid who was in theater nine in July nonoxy9 Jan 2013 #80
oh my goodness renate Jan 2013 #144
What an idiot indeed! SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #248
I agree with SouthernDonkey duhneece Jan 2013 #292
IMO a person carrying a rifle openly into an area filled with people is a bad guy. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #104
He doesn't have to justify anything loose wheel Jan 2013 #122
If someone had yelled "he's got a gun!" when Adam Lanza entered Sandy Hook, pnwmom Jan 2013 #127
Adam Lanza... loose wheel Jan 2013 #134
So if a guy walks into an Elementary School with an AR-15 ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #148
Carrying a gun into a school zone is a federal offense jmowreader Jan 2013 #191
If the gun is moved in or affects interstate commerce ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #195
Carrying guns into Penneys isn't a Federal offense. pnwmom Jan 2013 #196
Exactly. lolly Jan 2013 #268
JC Penny should say not in our stores. Bad for business. klyon Jan 2013 #150
Isnt that sad Robyn66 Jan 2013 #158
It's a very common sight in Oklahoma Wednesdays Jan 2013 #168
The purpose of those stickers is to prevent idiots trying to make stupid "points" kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #181
I have family in Oklahoma xmas74 Jan 2013 #239
That was dumb...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #290
Target does say just that. xmas74 Jan 2013 #237
So, the pre-req to being a "threat" when carrying guns in a forum is to have shot someone first bulloney Jan 2013 #186
And it's a small act of terrorism. FredStembottom Jan 2013 #226
Yep. lolly Jan 2013 #269
Nope. Never. FredStembottom Jan 2013 #303
So if Adam Lanza had just walked into PENNEYS with his "guns stowed on his person" pnwmom Jan 2013 #194
People don't have the right to LEAVE? HockeyMom Jan 2013 #133
But they apparently didn't loose wheel Jan 2013 #138
If any of the patrons had children with them they would be irresponsible parents LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #146
They would have had to make a proper threat determination loose wheel Jan 2013 #151
Based on what I could find for Utah the businesses can bar patrons with firearms. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #145
It would be pretty hard for someone to conceal carry an assault rifle on his person. pnwmom Jan 2013 #234
Not in the North in the Winter HockeyMom Jan 2013 #242
Well, this lovely Penney's nutcase might not get as much a kick pnwmom Jan 2013 #245
Holy Cow! lolly Jan 2013 #274
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #153
Scared? loose wheel Jan 2013 #166
Your sheriff is a "democrat sheriff?" Wednesdays Jan 2013 #172
Uhm...why? loose wheel Jan 2013 #198
Because we understand what an adjective is, and what a noun is. jeff47 Jan 2013 #200
I really don't follow all of that closely. loose wheel Jan 2013 #211
I grew up around guns too Robyn66 Jan 2013 #216
You don't follow the basics of parts of speech? jeff47 Jan 2013 #218
Most of us here are DEMOCRATS, the same word you use. pnwmom Jan 2013 #276
Your story is changing. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #284
uhm...nothing, rly...just go about your business... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2013 #215
After all this time lolly Jan 2013 #272
If all you watch is Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. deutsey Jan 2013 #293
Yelling "Fire" in a theatre isnt a crime when theres a fire. bunnies Jan 2013 #171
RW Gun trolls don't like it when you pick apart their idiotic arguments. Son of Gob Jan 2013 #187
Loose wheel? Loose cannon. Hekate Jan 2013 #174
Nah. loose wheel Jan 2013 #185
No. They fly off at highway speed and cause multi-vehicle... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #209
Yeah, thanks for stoking confusion among pepole Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #177
I'd settle for gun nuts finding another forum and quit making this one so shitty. Son of Gob Jan 2013 #192
I don't consider myself a gun nut... loose wheel Jan 2013 #193
Oh, well shit, it's so simple! Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #197
If you are afraid... loose wheel Jan 2013 #204
Spare me the gun lesson Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #208
^^^^^ Squinch Jan 2013 #249
I second that. lolly Jan 2013 #275
Thank you for cutting through the bullshit deutsey Jan 2013 #294
Using an AR-15 chambered for .223 ammunition as a "varmint gun" is kind of like using a sledgehammer ET Awful Jan 2013 #223
one small issue Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #230
So, meanit Jan 2013 #273
Over confidence is quite common with these folks lolly Jan 2013 #271
You're putting the onus of the problem on the wrong person. Your analysis is wrong. kwassa Jan 2013 #256
No, yelling "He's got a gun" would be just an observation. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #178
For what reason did you carry rifles into areas filled with people? pacalo Jan 2013 #206
I was at a rifle range. loose wheel Jan 2013 #212
I just *knew* that would be your answer. pacalo Jan 2013 #217
I'm going to ask you to use your brain a little here Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #227
Yeah, he has a perfect right to be a crazed weapons nut. pnwmom Jan 2013 #233
Lots of things are legal, but an affront to society. Hoyt Jan 2013 #240
Yelling, "He's gotta gun" is going to be viewed as about the same as yelling, "Fire" in a theater. SoCalNative Jan 2013 #241
Or in Somalia...n/t deutsey Jan 2013 #296
You are fucking insane. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #243
If a man walked in to a JC Penney store I was in at a counter I would leave my things and find a southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #2
This is what I would do as well Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #9
+1. And I agree with the OP that this moron is too stupid to be allowed a gun. Squinch Jan 2013 #10
I think he was just screaming for attention. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #64
And fully aware that he would terrify a lot of people in the process. Squinch Jan 2013 #65
Yep. He terrified me. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #111
And that, as we know, is the very definition of a terrorist. Hekate Jan 2013 #120
I would say so. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #126
Betcha there are federal anti-terrorist laws that would fit the bill on that. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #147
100% correct malaise Jan 2013 #16
me too. Your rights to carry a gun shouldn't trump my rights of having you shop in a store with a southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #63
Even the wild west wasn't that way Major Nikon Jan 2013 #88
Dang! Those were the good old days? tblue Jan 2013 #103
This needs to be shown more. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #106
I guess they had enough of the nuts and fruits just like we are over them. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #112
I see it more as the transition between civilized and uncivilized Major Nikon Jan 2013 #117
I don't think they would freak had it been done by a republican president. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #125
People like this man WANT the attention HockeyMom Jan 2013 #170
Could not agree more except I'd have called from home and told them why I left. marew Jan 2013 #176
That is what I would do. You know I bet there are allot of silent majority who would do the same. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #183
So would I -- you better believe it. pacalo Jan 2013 #207
Exactly what I was thinking. jillan Jan 2013 #252
You can call Penneys 24 hrs/day at 800-322-1189 to let them know you want a no-gun policy. Squinch Jan 2013 #260
Why thank you. I will be calling them on Monday morning. I will also let them know southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #262
Excellent madokie Jan 2013 #3
I would have made my way to the HappyMe Jan 2013 #4
I agree... KansDem Jan 2013 #140
Yup. HappyMe Jan 2013 #142
An AR-15 is NOT a hunting rifle. RebelOne Jan 2013 #5
If by "blast a deer to bits" you mean justanidea Jan 2013 #13
An AR-15 in a JC Penny, even if it WERE a "hunting rifle" annabanana Jan 2013 #38
That's right sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #92
no you would not Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #14
You'd be howled out of the woods around these parts if you brought an AR-15 to hunt deer IDemo Jan 2013 #59
I think it's a generational thing Recursion Jan 2013 #73
Err...Sam round..for starters. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #70
definitely... raidert05 Jan 2013 #27
A Barret .50 cal? Rozlee Jan 2013 #163
LOL... raidert05 Jan 2013 #169
Nice rant Ida 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #6
"Things just keep getting worse" & "It will only get worse if not curbed." pacalo Jan 2013 #213
I absolutely agree with you on the treason charge. 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #219
As a person who has always loved words, I don't use them without thought. pacalo Jan 2013 #220
Cogent Argument For Eliminating Guns In Society cantbeserious Jan 2013 #7
Gun Enthusiast Backing For That Assault Rifle-Toting Putz Is Notably Absent On Other Related Threads Paladin Jan 2013 #8
No, the guy is an idiot Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #17
He is a lot worse than an "idiot". nt ladjf Jan 2013 #139
As a gun owner I don't think his actions were wise or considerate aikoaiko Jan 2013 #20
But that's as far as it goes? Unwise and inconsiderate? Squinch Jan 2013 #51
How about unwise and very inconsiderate. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #71
Seriously? Squinch Jan 2013 #72
you not much smarter than that man Skittles Jan 2013 #114
What's wrong with saying it was unwise and inconsiderate? aikoaiko Jan 2013 #115
What do you want? Mean-spirited? Trollish? Recursion Jan 2013 #74
Cutting in line at the movie theater is unwise and inconsiderate. This was insane. No one in that Squinch Jan 2013 #84
What did it put people in danger of? Recursion Jan 2013 #85
For one thing, he put us in danger from the guy who thinks Wayne LaPierre is a sensible man. Squinch Jan 2013 #87
Apparently you don't think as many obviously do. A Simple Game Jan 2013 #95
Well, the bad guy wouldn't let people see he had a gun before his rampage Recursion Jan 2013 #97
Most do probably hide their guns until they use them, but if I A Simple Game Jan 2013 #102
Yeah, there's no chance he could be an unhinged nutjob lolly Jan 2013 #278
The bad guy is the one with the gun. SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #229
Check this out. As we all suspected, the guy is a complete obsessed psycho. Squinch Jan 2013 #246
I was wondering about that - it seems he didn't piss off anyone in that Utah store. Did anyone DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #99
I don't know anything about the community. I've lived places where this wouldn't raise an eyebrow Recursion Jan 2013 #100
I am pretty remote rural, but I haven't seen it here. But no, it wouldn't raise an eyebrow DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #107
Furthermore, I believe that he is hurting the arguments being made in favor of gun ownership. ladjf Jan 2013 #141
It was a dumb idea krispos42 Jan 2013 #12
The report indicated he had a CC permit. Robb Jan 2013 #25
Then he should have been carrying CONCEALED. krispos42 Jan 2013 #35
Should have, but didn't. What shall we do about it? Robb Jan 2013 #36
Many states have a prohibition about open carry... krispos42 Jan 2013 #44
Yes, the point is to be inflammatory BainsBane Jan 2013 #39
What's to prevent a "bad guy" from taking that weapon? Martin Eden Jan 2013 #15
I think the bigger question is how to know that he is not the lunatic malaise Jan 2013 #18
Yeah. If I saw this guy I would have run the hell out of there and then called 911. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #28
Because it's people influenced by a phase of the moon that are homicidal HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #29
OK I'll LOL at your interesting response malaise Jan 2013 #31
Intentionally or not you flicked a switch for me. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #34
Well it's all good then malaise Jan 2013 #40
Lunatics don't display their weapons before they fire Recursion Jan 2013 #76
They're lunatics. You can't count on any particular behavior. jeff47 Jan 2013 #210
That's the FIRST question, which was examined very cogently in the OP ... Martin Eden Jan 2013 #130
Amen it is ridiculously dangerous to have that in a JC Penney's treestar Jan 2013 #83
this: KG Jan 2013 #19
Well, exactly. How is anyone to know that he is NOT just another nut who legally bought his Nay Jan 2013 #32
Ban magazines of over 5 rounds daybranch Jan 2013 #21
This is interesting. Would you say more about this? I am not understanding why 5 rounds vs. 10 Squinch Jan 2013 #55
What does 5 rounds make impossible? Shooting a sixth round. Recursion Jan 2013 #78
Daybranch seemed to be saying that guns with 5 round magazines are fundamentally Squinch Jan 2013 #90
The magazine size has nothing to do with the gun per se Recursion Jan 2013 #96
The AR15 inaccurate at distance? Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #184
"My immediate response would have to be "To Hunt."" Robb Jan 2013 #22
I feel you as I'm freaked out whenever I see a weapon in public (let alone a retail establishment). Snarkoleptic Jan 2013 #23
I agree, but the sign needs to say "firearms", not "weapons". Here's why: MH1 Jan 2013 #45
Our local grocery store has "No Firearms" signs... hunter Jan 2013 #131
K&R. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #24
Better to change laws rather than peoples opinion. xoom Jan 2013 #26
That "legal and responsible" gun owner is... 99Forever Jan 2013 #30
Ida;s best and most important line: RVN VET Jan 2013 #33
I thought that, too. Black guys get shot for carrying Skittles on the street. Beartracks Jan 2013 #113
The thing that fool likely did not consider was he was liklier to get shot himself Coyotl Jan 2013 #37
Everyone should leave the store & not come back for a week. MAKE the Mall say no guns allowed on point Jan 2013 #41
Very poor taste... raidert05 Jan 2013 #42
The irony is that in a state with a Stand Your Ground law. zeemike Jan 2013 #46
Good point! csziggy Jan 2013 #108
That would send YOU to jail really quick. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #136
You mean it is unreasonable to think zeemike Jan 2013 #143
If.. raidert05 Jan 2013 #175
Well there would be this question. zeemike Jan 2013 #214
If he was raidert05 Jan 2013 #224
Well what if. zeemike Jan 2013 #228
Well.. raidert05 Jan 2013 #231
Any public place. zeemike Jan 2013 #232
If thats... raidert05 Jan 2013 #244
Well you can make the story sound like you want it to zeemike Jan 2013 #247
You need to make sure your "story" matches ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #254
I am not planing to do any of this BTW zeemike Jan 2013 #258
Hypothetically, this is where you might get in trouble. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #259
Well how about this one then. zeemike Jan 2013 #261
In this scenario, you are the armed aggressor. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #263
Well to keep this going. zeemike Jan 2013 #270
The problem here is you did not warn him but you threatened him. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #281
Well perhaps that is our problem zeemike Jan 2013 #291
I don't think you even have to be paranoid deutsey Jan 2013 #299
No where... raidert05 Jan 2013 #255
No I get what you are saying. zeemike Jan 2013 #257
Ida, if you put a note at the TOP of this excerpt, tblue37 Jan 2013 #47
I did write it. The link is to a news story about the guy with the AR-15 IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #48
AHHHH--MY mistake, then! tblue37 Jan 2013 #52
It was my fault for not being clear, and I immediately IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #53
All fairly reasonable points in the wake of something like this pipoman Jan 2013 #50
You are describing the case that occurred some years ago in Wichita. tblue37 Jan 2013 #77
Yep.. pipoman Jan 2013 #161
Well said IdaBriggs, Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #56
K&R SunSeeker Jan 2013 #57
+1000 LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #58
One of the best thing about my state is that you cannot carry at all! Walk away Jan 2013 #60
Really excellent post. Correct on every point. The man is mad, this is madness. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #61
This IS terrorism... and should not be considered acceptable behavior in any community Agony Jan 2013 #62
"This IS terrorism." Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #89
I wonder what donco Jan 2013 #66
As a parent Thav Jan 2013 #67
Come on.. sendero Jan 2013 #68
In California he would have been arrested. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #69
The big clue is that you saw the gun Recursion Jan 2013 #75
Not Sure That's An Accurate Statement. TinkerTot55 Jan 2013 #157
I don't know; good point. (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #160
I also think the mall shooter is seen on a surveilance tape deutsey Jan 2013 #300
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s opinion Generic Other Jan 2013 #79
You know Holmes used that to jail an anti-WWI protestor, right? Recursion Jan 2013 #81
Hmmmm Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #86
"He is a man openly carrying a "hunting rifle" where the only available targets are people" NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #91
His only other stop could have been the gun store loose wheel Jan 2013 #128
The guy needs some good parody photos. caseymoz Jan 2013 #93
I would consider anyone sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #94
Another of the what-if scenarios matt819 Jan 2013 #98
This was my comment on the Raw Story article about it: DFW Jan 2013 #101
+10,000 djean111 Jan 2013 #116
I wish I could rec this post a million times a million. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #109
You can't yell "Fire" in a theater. Beartracks Jan 2013 #110
You have my vote. I, too, would leave the scene immediately and call 911 Hekate Jan 2013 #119
It is not paranoid or an over reaction to run and hide when someone carries an 1monster Jan 2013 #124
At the very least I will inform the store they have lost a customer. Stores are privately owned appleannie1 Jan 2013 #132
Would rec more than once if I could War Horse Jan 2013 #135
Good post. I clearly understand your valid point that maybe the kill is a crazed killer about ladjf Jan 2013 #137
He brought it in to "educate" ???BULLSHIT! Robyn66 Jan 2013 #149
I read your story both times you posted it. IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #152
I feel like a real dork repeating it Robyn66 Jan 2013 #156
He is a domestic terrorist SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #251
ABSOLUTELY! Robyn66 Jan 2013 #253
A Bully and a Jerk lolly Jan 2013 #279
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #283
Boycott JC Penny's UNTIL They Prohibit OPEN CARRY in ALL of Their Stores!!! triplepoint Jan 2013 #154
Out in the Open Cedric the Clam Jan 2013 #155
You nailed it! lunatica Jan 2013 #159
If this happens again &ALL patrons leave the store until he does,profits will dictate policy/boycott judesedit Jan 2013 #165
You made the point that I made on a companion post Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #167
Ida I agree with you 100% life long demo Jan 2013 #173
JC Penney's should have showed him the door Politicalboi Jan 2013 #189
Intimidating and Scaring The Shit Out of otohara Jan 2013 #199
I couldn't agree more, Ida! pacalo Jan 2013 #202
When I worked as a bartender, I could forbid customers Cleita Jan 2013 #205
A simple solution: Contact JC Penny's and tell them that you and your kids will not shop in a store FSogol Jan 2013 #221
I wonder if I can walk into a JC Penney adieu Jan 2013 #222
And he really does seem to be on the edge of a violent rampage: pnwmom Jan 2013 #235
I don't care. xmas74 Jan 2013 #236
If this guy had walked into the store.... llmart Jan 2013 #238
He has an old My Space Account Look here and bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #250
IdaBriggs - here is his myspace account pipewrench Jan 2013 #264
If this guy had been on a deranged mission deutsey Jan 2013 #301
This person wanted to intimidate and it's sad he was allowed to. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #277
At best this guy is a swaggering half wit Warpy Jan 2013 #286
I am curious about who this man was, what his motivation was, & how the photos got to the HiPointDem Jan 2013 #287
You people just don't understand Semtex Jan 2013 #289
Oh, good grief! Please comment on JC Penney's Facebook page re: Gun Guy IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #295
Jcpenney is now a dangerous place to shop MellonCollie11 Jan 2013 #297
I hope their liability insurance is a hefty one MellonCollie11 Jan 2013 #298
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