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In reply to the discussion: do men, who do not believe in white male privilege/entitlement oppose affirmative action? [View all]dawg
(10,621 posts)40. When you grow to love someone ...
They cease to be black, or gay, or foreign, or female. They turn into "Rosalyn" and "Rob" and "Juan" and "Michelle". And no one is going to mess with them!!
But it is a shame that people can't see everyone as individuals to begin with, and not be prejudiced in the first place.
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do men, who do not believe in white male privilege/entitlement oppose affirmative action? [View all]
seabeyond
Jan 2013
OP
then i would think that would just be another reason that it would be hard to get white males
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#2
ya. in my job i did a lot of hiring. the whole comparative "as capable". but, there
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#5
How does the OP explain that about 70% of NFL players are black? Racism in coaching, merit on the
Romulox
Jan 2013
#6
big difference between the front office jobs and head coach, and the players on the field.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#9
"Big difference" doesn't explain why the players are selected for merit, but coaches aren't.
Romulox
Jan 2013
#15
as i said, i think that there is a conscious and unconscious belief that white male own those
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#20
it is with numbers. times. passes. scores. those are clear black and white number to the best
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#34
also, having been in management, that is kinda a precieved ability and if one is conditioned
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#52
I'm not sure it's true that "blacks make up the largest number of players". That's only confirmed
Romulox
Jan 2013
#98
Occam's razor: owners are acting in their perceived best interest--selecting people they think will
Romulox
Jan 2013
#17
Fair enough. Is it possible, however, that the owners hire coaches within their comfort zone?
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#19
That's why there needs to be organizations to address class privilege as well
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#76
then you ignore the part where people inherently go toward a white person as opposed to a black
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#10
true that. i recognize that. you are right. and i am not here to battle the notion either.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#18
Ah, but is he defending women by going after dead beat dads or is he punishing men he doesn't see
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#94
his career is with city?county? going after those (man or woman) that does not pay child support.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#95
Ah, good for him. My dad was a pilot in the Air Force, I always love seeing women pilots! nt
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#96
thanks for your explanation. more a philosophical question that heart bleeding. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#38
i really liked moon. thank you for your post. it explains a lot. very interesting.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#39
It starts in high school having black kids run the option, and it is indicative
Drahthaardogs
Jan 2013
#73
I oppose affirmative action because I watch my dad barely scrape by...
Comrade_McKenzie
Jan 2013
#31
true that. it is also known that more attractive people will be hired over the less
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#48
because they can only take a smoke break when breaks are allowed for all, and cause they are
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#57
very good point. i know it is that way with our younger women. but then, they have had a couple
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#81
...only after laws are enacted that go against base human behavior. It's HUMAN to want to relate to
uponit7771
Jan 2013
#103
& Dungy proved that Bucs not being S Bowl champs wasn't about him when Colts won w/him as head coach
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#99
he is young. and he talks. he does not walk it perfectly yet, but... he listens.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#84
I think jobs should be awarded based on the best person applying for the job.
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#74
So help economically disadvantaged people, whatever their race happens to be.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#83
Yes. If any minorities do happen to be systematically more disadvantaged, then they will
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#87
but we have found that does not work and ignores the problem. as i said, all you have to do is look
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#86
I can see how in any given year there would be no black head coaches in the NFL...
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#75
Good point. Perhaps the racial makeup of NFL coaches doesn't mean much after all (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#82
I think that the presence of women and minorities in previously all white male organizations
Nikia
Jan 2013
#78
Yep. And the billionaire NBA owners decided that 14 black guys out of 30 coaches
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#92
Neither is the voting rights act...come on, the "aint" argument died after 2008
uponit7771
Jan 2013
#104
Is this about "Head Coach" positions? Or does it include assistants?
JustABozoOnThisBus
Jan 2013
#107