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In reply to the discussion: Why do so many people idolize V for vendetta's anarchy? It is not democratic to blow up buildings [View all]tama
(9,137 posts)28. Alan Moore is anarchist
Anarchism
Moore politically identifies as an anarchist,[11] and outlined his interpretation of anarchist philosophy, and its application to fiction writing in an interview with Margaret Killjoy, collected in the 2009 book, Mythmakers and Lawbreakers:
I believe that all other political states are in fact variations or outgrowths of a basic state of anarchy; after all, when you mention the idea of anarchy to most people they will tell you what a bad idea it is because the biggest gang would just take over. Which is pretty much how I see contemporary society. We live in a badly developed anarchist situation in which the biggest gang has taken over and have declared that it is not an anarchist situation that it is a capitalist or a communist situation. But I tend to think that anarchy is the most natural form of politics for a human being to actually practice.[88]
In December 2011 Moore responded to Frank Miller's attack on the Occupy movement, calling his more recent work misogynistic, homophobic and misguided. Worldwide, Occupy protesters have adopted the Guy Fawkes mask from V for Vendetta.[89][90] The mask has also been adopted by Anonymous, WikiLeaks, Egyptian revolutionaries [1], and anti-globalization demonstrators.[91] Moore described Occupy as "ordinary people reclaiming rights which should always have been theirs"[92] and added:
I can't think of any reason why as a population we should be expected to stand by and see a gross reduction in the living standards of ourselves and our kids, possibly for generations, when the people who have got us into this have been rewarded for it they've certainly not been punished in any way because they're too big to fail. I think that the Occupy movement is, in one sense, the public saying that they should be the ones to decide who's too big to fail. As an anarchist, I believe that power should be given to the people whose lives this is actually affecting.[92]
Moore politically identifies as an anarchist,[11] and outlined his interpretation of anarchist philosophy, and its application to fiction writing in an interview with Margaret Killjoy, collected in the 2009 book, Mythmakers and Lawbreakers:
I believe that all other political states are in fact variations or outgrowths of a basic state of anarchy; after all, when you mention the idea of anarchy to most people they will tell you what a bad idea it is because the biggest gang would just take over. Which is pretty much how I see contemporary society. We live in a badly developed anarchist situation in which the biggest gang has taken over and have declared that it is not an anarchist situation that it is a capitalist or a communist situation. But I tend to think that anarchy is the most natural form of politics for a human being to actually practice.[88]
In December 2011 Moore responded to Frank Miller's attack on the Occupy movement, calling his more recent work misogynistic, homophobic and misguided. Worldwide, Occupy protesters have adopted the Guy Fawkes mask from V for Vendetta.[89][90] The mask has also been adopted by Anonymous, WikiLeaks, Egyptian revolutionaries [1], and anti-globalization demonstrators.[91] Moore described Occupy as "ordinary people reclaiming rights which should always have been theirs"[92] and added:
I can't think of any reason why as a population we should be expected to stand by and see a gross reduction in the living standards of ourselves and our kids, possibly for generations, when the people who have got us into this have been rewarded for it they've certainly not been punished in any way because they're too big to fail. I think that the Occupy movement is, in one sense, the public saying that they should be the ones to decide who's too big to fail. As an anarchist, I believe that power should be given to the people whose lives this is actually affecting.[92]
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Why do so many people idolize V for vendetta's anarchy? It is not democratic to blow up buildings [View all]
graham4anything
Jan 2013
OP
Reread the Declaration of Independence. Our country was founded on treason and anarchy.
rhett o rick
Jan 2013
#6
Bringing up the "debates" to provide evidence of legitimacy is indicative of missing the point
TheKentuckian
Jan 2013
#78
Sorry to be the one to break it to you. By-the-way look up the definition of
rhett o rick
Jan 2013
#94
Exactly--the colonists really did try to reason with the crown. King George put his boot up their
MADem
Jan 2013
#24
That's something of a simplification. Both sides misunderstood what the other was aiming at....
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#103
There were plenty of radicals at the time of the American Revolution. They didn't win the debate
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2013
#85
The colonists were British subjects and even some of the representatives at the Continental Congress
rhett o rick
Jan 2013
#57
I proudly wear my avitar to remember the actual good that was done in America.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#26
Wasn't good to be anyone in the way of V who was in Big Ben at the time
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#110
so it's his fault that the cops will shoot somebody who is not threatening them?
hfojvt
Jan 2013
#18
V knew perfectly well the cops were looking for a guy in a black cloak and a Guy Fawkes mask.
backscatter712
Jan 2013
#68
I think the guy ordering the troops to stand down was likely following protocol
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#97
why does he seem like a villain? he was an ordinary soldier, & as such, unlikely to have been
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#115
Because there are a hell of a lot of angry people on both sides of the political spectrum.
randome
Jan 2013
#10
except for one chemistry grad student and a few unimportant janitors you are saying???
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#25
BTW, there's a pretty good discussion in the Socialist Progressives group.......
socialist_n_TN
Jan 2013
#51
Precisely the opposite problem. What the ancient Greeks called democracy is now labeled anarchy
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2013
#90
We don't live in ancient greece though. And the founders did not set up one person/one vote
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#108
I've never seen the movie or read the book, but I'm tired of seeing those masks everywhere n/t
arcane1
Jan 2013
#53
Immediate gratification, instead of disciplined and work-wo/manly commitment to change of the
patrice
Jan 2013
#63
Using violence against tyranny is justified. Using violence against a democracy isn't.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#89
sheesh, complain, complain, yet you are free/open to write on a board google searched worldwide
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#121
Don't vote for Jeb Bush and it never will. Don't vote 3rd party and it never will.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#124
Here's some interesting Guy Fawkes Day poems from the era before Guy Fawkes became "safe"
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2013
#104