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Response to uppityperson (Reply #61)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:39 PM

62. I don't think Obama has pushed the Dems enough

He has repeatedly deferred to Harry Reid and others, and has repeatedly backed conservative Dems and ignored progressive Dems. He needs to engage his WHOLE Party, whether he agrees with them or not. The Progressive Caucus has asked to be heard on numerous occasions:

Afghanistan

The "debt limit deal" which the Progressive Caucus felt violated basic Democratic principles.

The Progressive Caucus budget.

Single payer representatives totally excluded from health insurance revision talks -- this was a Congressional Progressive Caucus issue.


He makes his decisions excluding the largest Congressional caucus and deferring to a Senate leader who most at DU, up until Obama's administration, agreed was weak and far more conservative than most used to consider acceptable.

That's also assuming that one takes him at his word. I personally think that he too frequently talks a good "Democratic" game but he's more in agreement with some of the shitty "compromises" than he acknowledges. He's started from right-wing/corporate/Wall Street mindsets too often and has been too reluctant to challenge those ways of thinking. His SOTU speech sounded good, but I heard him sound good before and govern far to the right of his "sound good" speeches, so my jury is out on that one -- his actions will speak WAY louder than his words.

But, if he TRULY believes his liberal rhetoric, he hasn't shown it in his willingness to push at least HIS PARTY to go along with his more liberal policy goals, at least those he claims in speeches. All those conservative Dems he's been backing owe him -- he has chips to draw from them. And I lived with someone (Dad) who worked in DC/politics for most of his adult life -- that IS how much of it works. Time for him to call in those chips if he REALLY means what he says and PUSH the Dems to rally AS A WHOLE behind what he SAYS are his policies.


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