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billh58

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29. It's puzzling to me

Reply to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:38 PM

Jan 2013

that the SCOTUS which gave us the "individual rights" decision in Heller and is worshiped by the Gungeon crowd, is the same SCOTUS that gave us GWB in Florida, and Citizens United.

The only conclusion that I can draw from this observation is that the Gungeoneers who celebrate the overturning of around 100 years of sensible gun laws with Heller, also voted for Dubya, and agree with "corporations are people."

So someone please tell me again why right-wing, neoconservative, Scalia worshiping, NRA-supporters are allowed to spew their anti-Democratic hatred and Republican propaganda on DU?

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Just askin' [View all] madamesilverspurs Jan 2013 OP

I'm guessing they sort of go with the 'shall not be infringed' part of that. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #1

It is possible to logically say that the main clause is, "A well regulated militia...shall not be patrice Jan 2013 #6

I'm not sure the careful parsing matters...they just need something to which they can cling HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #7

Well, there are no perfect words, that means the ability to think is paramount. Thinking is NOT what patrice Jan 2013 #15

This is always the silliest argument...I just don't get how people think like this... jmg257 Jan 2013 #11

Just because you don't perceive something does not mean that it is not there. Commas are the patrice Jan 2013 #12

Nope - its some silly shit. My use of "so" did not alter the intent of the actual amendment, jmg257 Jan 2013 #14

So YOU may add to the Constitution AND subtract from it, but no one else may do the same. PRIVILEGE patrice Jan 2013 #17

Easy, don't go away mad. I was not adding or subtracting, I was rehashing what it says using jmg257 Jan 2013 #19

k, so the founding fathers (ahem...) made a mistake & forgot to say "hence". What other mistakes did patrice Jan 2013 #24

And would any of their other mistakes have anything to do with the means by which Corporate Personho patrice Jan 2013 #25

Not sure what you are saying or asking - can you clarify? nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #27

I would say that whole slave thing was a BIG one. jmg257 Jan 2013 #26

Actually, to legal scholars, including supreme court justices, HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #20

Agreed. Such selective interpretation is used in re:the 2nd, where jmg257 Jan 2013 #21

Judges are like accountants, their figures don't lie, but they surely do figuring. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #23

Come on now. You can't say that you inserting a word didn't change the intent when you're Politicub Jan 2013 #30

My adding 'so' while paraphrasing the wording of the 2nd did NOT change the intent. jmg257 Jan 2013 #32

+1, nutters have an excuse of being incredibly gullible what I cant stand is DUr's with HPC usin NRA uponit7771 Jan 2013 #2

Huge K&R! hrmjustin Jan 2013 #3

Simple ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #4

Yep, that's it exactly... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #8

They want to regulate the militia - socialindependocrat Jan 2013 #10

It isn't an individual right either. Blanks Jan 2013 #16

The amendment calls for a well regulated militia. It doesn't say an optional regulated militia. Politicub Jan 2013 #31

I agree with your points, especially the 2nd. The States WERE SUPPOSED jmg257 Jan 2013 #33

This all seems so out of date and far removed from the modern US Politicub Jan 2013 #34

I know I know. I love the historical aspect though! But bottom line, (IMHO) jmg257 Jan 2013 #35

I appreciate the dialogue. Politicub Jan 2013 #36

Me too! Cheers! Nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #37

K&R! & snagged, Thanks! nt patrice Jan 2013 #5

Regulate: to fix or adjust the time, amount, degree, or rate of. BadgerKid Jan 2013 #9

And luckily so, otherwise our National Guard would suck. jmg257 Jan 2013 #13

Different times Dpm12 Jan 2013 #18

Pickin and choosin lobodons Jan 2013 #22

Well-regulated was a well-known term to the Founding Fathers bongbong Jan 2013 #28

It's puzzling to me billh58 Jan 2013 #29