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Lizzie Poppet

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41. And remember what happened after it was instituted?

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:32 PM

Jan 2013

The disastrous elections of 1994...

If what was proposed was some sort of sweeping action against handguns (that would somehow drastically reduce their possession by habitual criminals), it might actually be worth getting crushed in 2014 and losing the Senate. A big reduction in homicide would be worth paying that price. But to risk a GOP takeover for the sake of restricting weapons responsible for less than one percent of homicide? The disastrous economic implications for the poor of a GOP-dominated government could actually cause more loss of life than that (particularly if you consider that the drug trade* tends to thrive under conditions of economic injustice).

*which is implicated in a majority of US homicides, btw...

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If Democrats pursue an Assault Weapons Ban then they'll never win another election. [View all] Scuba Jan 2013 OP

I'll take that risk. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #1

+ 1 eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #6

And the loonies won't vote for Obama anyways so...no loss. randome Jan 2013 #15

Then why don't they just STFU and allow the Democrats to destroy themselves? tularetom Jan 2013 #2

This. Robb Jan 2013 #18

There's you proof that they believe the opposite. Squinch Jan 2013 #29

All gunner talking points involve fear in some way upaloopa Jan 2013 #3

From what I've seen, they don't fear revolution, they want it. Undaunted Jan 2013 #7

They want us to fear their revolution upaloopa Jan 2013 #10

Assault weapons should be limited to registered, monitored gun ranges that have the bluestate10 Jan 2013 #4

Pre-12/14 thinking. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #5

I'm seeing this meme a lot... derby378 Jan 2013 #9

It's an homage. The fact is that polls indicate a sea change. onehandle Jan 2013 #22

None of the state representatives from my county (all democrats) lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #8

"Four of the legislators are members of the National Rifle Association...." Robb Jan 2013 #20

Yes. But they are also pro-union and otherwise decent democrats. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #32

Your first "otherwise decent democrat" is a goddamn bigot. Robb Jan 2013 #35

"I can only imagine how great the rest on your list are." lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #40

*You* called them "otherwise decent democrats." Robb Jan 2013 #44

I'm obviously not keen on his attitude toward the issue... lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #45

I'll bookmark this for the midterms and hope you are right. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #11

The ban existed before. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #12

And wouldn't have prevented any of these events madville Jan 2013 #14

And your solution to the problem? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #26

The only solution is an outright ban madville Jan 2013 #36

ok Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #37

And remember what happened after it was instituted? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #41

Why do we keep chasing this windmill? Ban semi-autos, or don't. Why is it so important to you ... Recursion Jan 2013 #13

It's actually pretty innovative and interesting madville Jan 2013 #17

As long as it's not functionally a class 3 weapon (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #24

Correct, should have added that. No full-auto manufacturing at home madville Jan 2013 #34

Oh well, tough shit then. The RA doesn't have that kind of power rustydog Jan 2013 #16

Most Gun people I know think the NRA is soft madville Jan 2013 #19

eeek! bongbong Jan 2013 #42

I work for the federal government madville Jan 2013 #47

Still eeek! bongbong Jan 2013 #48

It's not fear madville Jan 2013 #49

Well... bongbong Jan 2013 #51

yes they will. barbtries Jan 2013 #21

Because gun nuts have been such reliable Democratic voters up to now. Marr Jan 2013 #23

Agreed, that is not true anymore. Deep13 Jan 2013 #25

Of course not. But some Democrats from districts/states with significant numbers of hunters will Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #27

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #28

Hmmmm jambo101 Jan 2013 #30

Fear is all they have! liberal N proud Jan 2013 #31

If that's the case regjoe Jan 2013 #33

It depends on HOW the Democratic Party does this. bvar22 Jan 2013 #38

I think GWB was a weapon of mass destruction, so does most of the country. Rex Jan 2013 #39

At this point, we are probably going to get killed in 2014 davidn3600 Jan 2013 #43

Congress should have a closed session to debate and vote on gun control... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #46

The original 1994 AWB started after another school massacre Xithras Jan 2013 #50

It would just be one more reason for my family to vote Dem. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #52

If after to years unemployment is down to 6%, Americans still_one Jan 2013 #53

I don't think so libodem Jan 2013 #54

I don't feel that another Assault Weapons Ban will pass the Senate let alone the House. ... spin Jan 2013 #55

Your post is full of NRA talking points, to wit ... Scuba Jan 2013 #56

True. Polls show support for more gun control but gun control is a broad subject. ... spin Jan 2013 #59

NRA myth - Democrats lost Congress in 1994 as a result of the AWB SecularMotion Jan 2013 #57

Domestic gun issues ARE being combined with international gun traffic that gets American TROOPS, patrice Jan 2013 #58