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EOTE

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108. It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:54 AM
Jan 2013

Surely something you've thrown in so you can accuse me of "defending pedophiles" whatever that means. Apparently, in your mind it means not throwing them in jail for the thoughts that they think. It's clearly a sexual orientation due to the extremely large number of people out there who fall into line with it. But I'm sure you know better, Dr. What a laugh. Again, thought crimes are disgusting.

Ay yi yi el_bryanto Jan 2013 #1
Treat it like a life-long disease, maybe? randome Jan 2013 #2
it is worst than that AlphaCentauri Jan 2013 #4
Too bad. This disease harms innocent children and no amount of experts trying to tame the idea with Pisces Jan 2013 #39
I could not agree more. zappaman Jan 2013 #75
i agree. hopemountain Jan 2013 #81
I think it is a "sexual orientation" obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #87
I believe that is true obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #86
Although pedophilia may be heavily related to one's "wiring" it is clear to say that, generally, cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #3
I agree. -nt Bradical79 Jan 2013 #10
+1 nt Live and Learn Jan 2013 #21
Do you think the need to abuse can be redirected then? randome Jan 2013 #38
It is a *desire* to abuse. Not a need. redqueen Jan 2013 #40
If 'desire', in some cases, is wired with 'need', then there's a problem. randome Jan 2013 #42
The study showed these sick, defective shits were confusing wants with needs? redqueen Jan 2013 #44
"...a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change..." randome Jan 2013 #47
Yeah, towards a chimo's cellmate customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #83
FYI the abused do not... garthranzz Jan 2013 #91
Beware of Relevant Equality 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #5
Agree. This is truly disgusting. duffyduff Jan 2013 #6
What you want it to be is irrelevant. Bradical79 Jan 2013 #9
Bullshit ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #20
You don't seem to understand this issue at all. EOTE Jan 2013 #31
You miss my point ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #45
Thanks for the lesson, Dr. Ism. On which internet site did you learn that gem? EOTE Jan 2013 #46
And the spate of female teacher/male student relationships. NT galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #48
Actually ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #49
I'm not defending child molesters, and you seem to be conflating the two. EOTE Jan 2013 #52
So you are simply agreeing that its a valid ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #65
If by 'valid', you mean identifiable, I would agree with that. randome Jan 2013 #85
I mean ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #93
I do see your point. randome Jan 2013 #95
True ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #99
A hell of a lot of questions are raised by this, that's for sure. randome Jan 2013 #101
It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you. EOTE Jan 2013 #108
You know what I call that show customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #84
I had to read your post Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #53
Oh, I'm sure they'll try to equate the two. Bradical79 Jan 2013 #8
+1000000000 redqueen Jan 2013 #41
We need to look at the truth no matter where it leads. randome Jan 2013 #43
Many people fantasize about owning a Lamborghini. But they don't go out and steal one. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #7
Yes but how many older men fantasize with being with a teenage girl CE5 Jan 2013 #11
Is a 14-year-old girl old enough to decide whether or not to have an abortion? Orrex Jan 2013 #13
Is a 14-year-old girl old enough to decide whether or not to raise a child? REP Jan 2013 #26
By themselves? In the US? Of course not. Why do you ask? Orrex Jan 2013 #30
We're on the same page then REP Jan 2013 #35
Is a given 14 year old girl Aerows Jan 2013 #78
But if we trust her to make decisions about her body, Orrex Jan 2013 #82
Because in both cases the 14 year old should be able to control her body. pnwmom Jan 2013 #90
Don't you think that the older man might try to manipulate her re: the abortion? Orrex Jan 2013 #97
I think most states allow for sex with a minor if the other person is close in age -- though 18 pnwmom Jan 2013 #109
They aren't the same thing. antigone382 Jan 2013 #92
On the contrary, I'm not denying her anything Orrex Jan 2013 #98
I don't think it's simple, but I do think there is a clear difference... antigone382 Jan 2013 #100
On the whole, I think that we're in agreement Orrex Jan 2013 #102
The majority of states are either 16 or 17 for the age of consent. former9thward Jan 2013 #18
That is not pedophilia obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #88
One huge difference Ter Jan 2013 #16
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #80
Very frightening what this suggests. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #12
So pedophiles are overwhelmingly heterosexual males? Zorra Jan 2013 #14
And how many missed that little fact? Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #28
So how long until the Haterade-drinking right-wing jumps on this? backscatter712 Jan 2013 #15
It may well be a wiring issue. Serial killing may be one, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #17
Gelding? Confinement? MADem Jan 2013 #27
I agree. Thats why I threw in serial killing. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #50
Thanks. I agree completely. Chathamization Jan 2013 #72
I agree. Rex Jan 2013 #106
Does not surprise me. There are plenty of mental issues that are hard-wired in people's brains Hugabear Jan 2013 #19
OH BULLSHIT HiPointDem Jan 2013 #22
uh, clearly many scientists and researchers disagree with you, but heaven's cali Jan 2013 #24
gee cali, & i thought we were friends now. but don't call me honey, honey. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #25
More than one study, more than one team of researchers. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #51
Did you actually read any of those? redqueen Jan 2013 #54
They deal with neurological/brain function patterns in paedophilia Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #55
lol redqueen Jan 2013 #56
Sorry you are apparently incapable of comprehension Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #57
Yeah, no. That last one does not mean what you think it means. redqueen Jan 2013 #58
So what's your point, then? That every deviant is a 'sick fuck'? randome Jan 2013 #61
Au contraire, the last study Spider posted shows redqueen Jan 2013 #67
Nice reading comprehension fail on your part Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #63
lol redqueen Jan 2013 #70
Multiple studies showing involvement of the same brain areas in arousal response patterns... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #73
Do you happen to remember the sample size for that one? redqueen Jan 2013 #76
"...influenced by neurology and isn't volitional." redqueen Jan 2013 #62
Except that accepting that something may be physiological in nature isn't "apologist" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #69
"... there's nothing that says that..." redqueen Jan 2013 #74
Not "behavior" - desire Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #94
'Not volitional' is not the same as 'approval', however. randome Jan 2013 #96
None of those have *anything* to do with pedophilia being "inborn". HiPointDem Jan 2013 #71
Some people have an inborn propensity to condescend alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #66
nah, i'm sure it's faulty wiring. there must be a study i can cite to defend that claim somewhere. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #77
The reason for that is probably that Gerald Ford needed his left hand to steady himself. Jamastiene Feb 2013 #110
Oh c'mon. Rush warned us: napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #29
You may be confusing "innate" with "OK" Recursion Jan 2013 #32
people aren't born with a propensity to do anthing but suck & shit. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #33
Grade A, blank slate nonsense AngryAmish Jan 2013 #34
all our behavior is 'based on' our biology. that's a different matter than claims some humans are HiPointDem Jan 2013 #36
Agreed alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #68
Lol, scientific mined I see! n-t Logical Jan 2013 #104
lol, did scientific mine? mined what? some people believe everything they read in the funny HiPointDem Jan 2013 #105
I would not classify it as sexual attraction any more then I would state Rex Jan 2013 #107
The big hole in their argument is they are making huge generalization davidpdx Jan 2013 #23
That would explain why recidivism is so high. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #37
I understand this is a tough subject and touches a lot of nerves davidn3600 Jan 2013 #59
Plus, 'catching' a predator occurs after the abuse. randome Jan 2013 #64
"maybe some abuse can be prevented." Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #79
That is the part that irks me as well. Jamastiene Feb 2013 #111
Agreed obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #89
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #60
I too think it's a lifelong condition that can't be cured but ecstatic Jan 2013 #103
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