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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:46 PM

63. Nice reading comprehension fail on your part

late-life acquisition of paedophilic tendency as related to neurological conditions and brain damage is supportive of an organic neurological cause for those behaviours, firstly; secondly given the innate nature of sexual response a consistent fMRI scan response to stimuli that discriminates paedophilic from non-paedophilic response further supports the correlation of innate neurological patterns as predictor and determinant of paedophilic arousal. (And "sexual response is linked to brain activity" is kind of the whole point here; the larger point being that "sexual response to children as measured by brain activity is specific to paedophiles and not non-paedophiles, and is the result of neurological differences".

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111 replies	Author	Time	Post
Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia [View all]	AlphaCentauri	Jan 2013	OP
Ay yi yi	el_bryanto	Jan 2013	#1
Treat it like a life-long disease, maybe?	randome	Jan 2013	#2
it is worst than that	AlphaCentauri	Jan 2013	#4
Too bad. This disease harms innocent children and no amount of experts trying to tame the idea with	Pisces	Jan 2013	#39
I could not agree more.	zappaman	Jan 2013	#75
i agree.	hopemountain	Jan 2013	#81
I think it is a "sexual orientation"	obamanut2012	Jan 2013	#87
I believe that is true	obamanut2012	Jan 2013	#86
Although pedophilia may be heavily related to one's "wiring" it is clear to say that, generally,	cecilfirefox	Jan 2013	#3
I agree. -nt	Bradical79	Jan 2013	#10
+1 nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2013	#21
Do you think the need to abuse can be redirected then?	randome	Jan 2013	#38
It is a desire to abuse. Not a need.	redqueen	Jan 2013	#40
If 'desire', in some cases, is wired with 'need', then there's a problem.	randome	Jan 2013	#42
The study showed these sick, defective shits were confusing wants with needs?	redqueen	Jan 2013	#44
"...a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change..."	randome	Jan 2013	#47
Yeah, towards a chimo's cellmate	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#83
FYI the abused do not...	garthranzz	Jan 2013	#91
Beware of Relevant Equality	4Q2u2	Jan 2013	#5
Agree. This is truly disgusting.	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#6
What you want it to be is irrelevant.	Bradical79	Jan 2013	#9
Bullshit	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#20
You don't seem to understand this issue at all.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#31
You miss my point	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#45
Thanks for the lesson, Dr. Ism. On which internet site did you learn that gem?	EOTE	Jan 2013	#46
And the spate of female teacher/male student relationships. NT	galileoreloaded	Jan 2013	#48
Actually	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#49
I'm not defending child molesters, and you seem to be conflating the two.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#52
So you are simply agreeing that its a valid	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#65
If by 'valid', you mean identifiable, I would agree with that.	randome	Jan 2013	#85
I mean	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#93
I do see your point.	randome	Jan 2013	#95
True	ismnotwasm	Jan 2013	#99
A hell of a lot of questions are raised by this, that's for sure.	randome	Jan 2013	#101
It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#108
You know what I call that show	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#84
I had to read your post	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#53
Oh, I'm sure they'll try to equate the two.	Bradical79	Jan 2013	#8
+1000000000	redqueen	Jan 2013	#41
We need to look at the truth no matter where it leads.	randome	Jan 2013	#43
Many people fantasize about owning a Lamborghini. But they don't go out and steal one.	Nye Bevan	Jan 2013	#7
Yes but how many older men fantasize with being with a teenage girl	CE5	Jan 2013	#11
Is a 14-year-old girl old enough to decide whether or not to have an abortion?	Orrex	Jan 2013	#13
Is a 14-year-old girl old enough to decide whether or not to raise a child?	REP	Jan 2013	#26
By themselves? In the US? Of course not. Why do you ask?	Orrex	Jan 2013	#30
We're on the same page then	REP	Jan 2013	#35
Is a given 14 year old girl	Aerows	Jan 2013	#78
But if we trust her to make decisions about her body,	Orrex	Jan 2013	#82
Because in both cases the 14 year old should be able to control her body.	pnwmom	Jan 2013	#90
Don't you think that the older man might try to manipulate her re: the abortion?	Orrex	Jan 2013	#97
I think most states allow for sex with a minor if the other person is close in age -- though 18	pnwmom	Jan 2013	#109
They aren't the same thing.	antigone382	Jan 2013	#92
On the contrary, I'm not denying her anything	Orrex	Jan 2013	#98
I don't think it's simple, but I do think there is a clear difference...	antigone382	Jan 2013	#100
On the whole, I think that we're in agreement	Orrex	Jan 2013	#102
The majority of states are either 16 or 17 for the age of consent.	former9thward	Jan 2013	#18
That is not pedophilia	obamanut2012	Jan 2013	#88
One huge difference	Ter	Jan 2013	#16
This post was hidden by jury decision.	alas_babylon	Jan 2013	#80
Very frightening what this suggests.	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2013	#12
So pedophiles are overwhelmingly heterosexual males?	Zorra	Jan 2013	#14
And how many missed that little fact?	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2013	#28
So how long until the Haterade-drinking right-wing jumps on this?	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#15
It may well be a wiring issue. Serial killing may be one, too.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2013	#17
Gelding? Confinement?	MADem	Jan 2013	#27
I agree. Thats why I threw in serial killing.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2013	#50
Thanks. I agree completely.	Chathamization	Jan 2013	#72
I agree.	Rex	Jan 2013	#106
Does not surprise me. There are plenty of mental issues that are hard-wired in people's brains	Hugabear	Jan 2013	#19
OH BULLSHIT	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#22
uh, clearly many scientists and researchers disagree with you, but heaven's	cali	Jan 2013	#24
gee cali, & i thought we were friends now. but don't call me honey, honey.	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#25
More than one study, more than one team of researchers.	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#51
Did you actually read any of those?	redqueen	Jan 2013	#54
They deal with neurological/brain function patterns in paedophilia	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#55
lol	redqueen	Jan 2013	#56
Sorry you are apparently incapable of comprehension	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#57
Yeah, no. That last one does not mean what you think it means.	redqueen	Jan 2013	#58
So what's your point, then? That every deviant is a 'sick fuck'?	randome	Jan 2013	#61
Au contraire, the last study Spider posted shows	redqueen	Jan 2013	#67
Nice reading comprehension fail on your part	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#63
lol	redqueen	Jan 2013	#70
Multiple studies showing involvement of the same brain areas in arousal response patterns...	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#73
Do you happen to remember the sample size for that one?	redqueen	Jan 2013	#76
"...influenced by neurology and isn't volitional."	redqueen	Jan 2013	#62
Except that accepting that something may be physiological in nature isn't "apologist"	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2013	#69
"... there's nothing that says that..."	redqueen	Jan 2013	#74
Not "behavior" - desire	Yo_Mama	Jan 2013	#94
'Not volitional' is not the same as 'approval', however.	randome	Jan 2013	#96
None of those have anything to do with pedophilia being "inborn".	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#71
Some people have an inborn propensity to condescend	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#66
nah, i'm sure it's faulty wiring. there must be a study i can cite to defend that claim somewhere.	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#77
The reason for that is probably that Gerald Ford needed his left hand to steady himself.	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#110
Oh c'mon. Rush warned us:	napoleon_in_rags	Jan 2013	#29
You may be confusing "innate" with "OK"	Recursion	Jan 2013	#32
people aren't born with a propensity to do anthing but suck & shit.	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#33
Grade A, blank slate nonsense	AngryAmish	Jan 2013	#34
all our behavior is 'based on' our biology. that's a different matter than claims some humans are	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#36
Agreed	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#68
Lol, scientific mined I see! n-t	Logical	Jan 2013	#104
lol, did scientific mine? mined what? some people believe everything they read in the funny	HiPointDem	Jan 2013	#105
I would not classify it as sexual attraction any more then I would state	Rex	Jan 2013	#107
The big hole in their argument is they are making huge generalization	davidpdx	Jan 2013	#23
That would explain why recidivism is so high.	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#37
I understand this is a tough subject and touches a lot of nerves	davidn3600	Jan 2013	#59
Plus, 'catching' a predator occurs after the abuse.	randome	Jan 2013	#64
"maybe some abuse can be prevented."	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2013	#79
That is the part that irks me as well.	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#111
Agreed	obamanut2012	Jan 2013	#89
This post was hidden by jury decision.	MrSlayer	Jan 2013	#60
I too think it's a lifelong condition that can't be cured but	ecstatic	Jan 2013	#103

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