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tblue37

(65,227 posts)
53. He was an incredibly smart man, and totally committed to his
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jan 2013

cause.

I think of his suicide as a form of martyrdom, like the suicides of those Buddhist monks who burned themselves alive at the height of the Diem regime to protest its human rights outrages while we were supporting that regime during the first part of the Vietnam War.

As tragic as his suicide is, and as unforgivable as the goverment's relentless prosecutorial assault on him was, I can't help thinking that he chose to commit suicide at this point, at least in part, as a way to direct the attention of those of us who don't care where our "electricity" comes from--IOW, to make people understand that our access to information and to the internet is not something that is guaranteed, but rather soemthing that we have to constantly defend against the attempts by the powerful to restrict our access.

So few folks here seem to know what Aaron Swartz stood for (EFF, Creative Commons KoKo Jan 2013 #1
He's One Of The Reasons DU Is Still Here. WillyT Jan 2013 #2
And that he was affliated with EFF who Defended "DU" when RW Group went against DU KoKo Jan 2013 #4
+... I Do Not Have A Big Enough Number... WillyT Jan 2013 #5
Very few here seem to still know about this or care, anymore. KoKo Jan 2013 #10
Most People Do Not Know How Electricity Comes To There Homes... Let Alone The Internet... WillyT Jan 2013 #11
K&RNT Kurovski Jan 2013 #3
Any 'suicide' by 'plane crashes' and 'hanging'... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #6
He was an incredibly smart man, and totally committed to his tblue37 Jan 2013 #53
you're comparing this guy to Buddist monks? dlwickham Jan 2013 #76
A new variation on state terrorism. Apparently, quite effective. enough Jan 2013 #7
Fire Heymann commenter8 Jan 2013 #8
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #9
a prosecutor's job is to punish datasuspect Jan 2013 #20
NO IT IS NOT !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #32
++! That prosecutor and the US Attorney he works for should never work in law again. n/t backscatter712 Jan 2013 #31
I want to see Stephen Heymann's photograph so we can hound him into submission. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #81
actually, suicide is kinda complex datasuspect Jan 2013 #12
You're right. It is complex. randome Jan 2013 #13
don't do crime that isn't worth sitting in the can for datasuspect Jan 2013 #15
Plus he would have been even more of an inspiration to the world. randome Jan 2013 #17
nope datasuspect Jan 2013 #18
Ah yes, it was the victims fault once again. The government is blameless. I feel so much better. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #27
The truth is the truth. It was MIT that wanted to make an example of Swartz. randome Jan 2013 #28
"The truth is the truth" and you know the truth. How does one know the truth? How rhett o rick Jan 2013 #39
The truth is often malleable and I have no problem seeing that. randome Jan 2013 #45
I can agree with that. Sorry for my over reaction. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #79
Understood. No problems here! randome Jan 2013 #80
Maybe True... Although This Kid Was A Genius, An Idealist, Was Not In For Profit, And A Hero... WillyT Jan 2013 #14
well you can be a genius datasuspect Jan 2013 #16
How can you get in jeopardy? Downwinder Jan 2013 #26
when you make a conscious decision datasuspect Jan 2013 #41
I fail to see that his crime was any greater than exceeding Downwinder Jan 2013 #42
you can argue with the law datasuspect Jan 2013 #43
You can argue with the interpretation of the law. Downwinder Jan 2013 #44
Welcome to Uhhhmerica datasuspect Jan 2013 #46
Everyone that knuckles under gives up everybody's Downwinder Jan 2013 #51
it depends on what you want to put on the line datasuspect Jan 2013 #63
'I can't finish this.'? Laying it on a bit thick, aren't you? randome Jan 2013 #19
I Had A Sister Who Was Kicked Out Her Boyfriend's Corvette Because She Was Trying To Break Up WillyT Jan 2013 #22
I wasn't making light of suicide. And I'm sorry your sister witnessed that. randome Jan 2013 #25
Oh... You Don't Know The Half... WillyT Jan 2013 #30
The same kind that may have killed her had she not done what she did. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #38
It's also really stupid to blame the government when mythology Jan 2013 #36
Swartz was a faculty member at Harvard. EOTE Jan 2013 #49
Shhh...! Chathamization Jan 2013 #77
What "violation of the law" are you referring to? EOTE Jan 2013 #47
play with fire datasuspect Jan 2013 #48
You've provided absolutely nothing but snark. Do you know ANYTHING about this case? EOTE Jan 2013 #50
it doesn't matter what i say datasuspect Jan 2013 #52
But you do have the power to spread bullshit about this case. EOTE Jan 2013 #54
you seem to have a very deep emotional investment in this datasuspect Jan 2013 #56
You seem to think it's fine to pass along bullshit as truth. EOTE Jan 2013 #57
bless your heart datasuspect Jan 2013 #58
So, not just ignorant, but southern ignorant. EOTE Jan 2013 #59
my, my datasuspect Jan 2013 #60
Hey chump, care telling me how Aaron played with fire? EOTE Jan 2013 #61
don't do the crime datasuspect Jan 2013 #62
Derp. Not the brightest... well anything actually. EOTE Jan 2013 #64
there, there datasuspect Jan 2013 #65
What crime, apologist? EOTE Jan 2013 #66
The United States Attorney charged him with wire fraud and computer fraud datasuspect Jan 2013 #67
I'm asking you what he DID. EOTE Jan 2013 #68
he hooked a laptop to the servers and crashed them datasuspect Jan 2013 #69
How about you even attempt to learn something. EOTE Jan 2013 #70
dimwit datasuspect Jan 2013 #71
Ahhh, so your argument is "He was charged, he's obviously guilty." EOTE Jan 2013 #73
bless your heart datasuspect Jan 2013 #74
I would argue that ignorance/uncertainty of the law in such matters *is* an excuse. reformist2 Jan 2013 #21
well, they dropped all charges today. datasuspect Jan 2013 #72
I have run into the J-Stor paywall numerous times Downwinder Jan 2013 #23
Good Info... Thanks !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #24
Amy did a good show about him yesterday what joelz Jan 2013 #29
Friend of Julian Assange, a top guy on the Enemies List. Octafish Jan 2013 #33
Yeah Huh ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #34
He was an outlier siligut Jan 2013 #35
While the Government May Not Be Blameless No One is Discussing Swarts's Depression Indykatie Jan 2013 #37
Killed by the government who were defending the interests of big media. wildeyed Jan 2013 #40
kick for the father Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #55
I remember the hell they gave Stephen Hatfill Chathamization Jan 2013 #75
The fact he hadn't actually committed a crime makes this so much worse. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #78
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