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41. Understanding ...

Reply to 99th_Monkey (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:28 PM

Jan 2013

is one thing; empowered to act on that understanding is a complete 'nother.

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What is happening B4 our eyes to the mythical 2nd Term "more progressive" President Obama? [View all] 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 OP

Hang on there. Did you read the article? allrevvedup Jan 2013 #1

Being more progressive was only a hope that many of us had...... dmosh42 Jan 2013 #2

That's pretty much how I feel as well. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #17

The word is spelled b-e-f-o-r-e Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #3

He's not progressive JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #4

Exactly, he's a centrist Cresent City Kid Jan 2013 #5

Declaring his second term a failure on Jan 15, 2013... SidDithers Jan 2013 #6

+1! bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #7

Apparantly, Obama's 2nd term is a failure even before it starts!! JoePhilly Jan 2013 #8

The point of the post is whether Obama is a progressive, nothing about being bad or good. dmosh42 Jan 2013 #14

Clearly we are not reading the same OP JoePhilly Jan 2013 #16

I wish that he would start channeling FDR. amandabeech Jan 2013 #96

We're discussing APPOINTMENTS happening NOW that effect the next 4 years 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #18

Your complaint presupposes he has not made these policy decisions because he Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #9

the complaint is about a myth that Obama is not responsible for Enrique Jan 2013 #11

I think there is a profound distinction between being a liberal and a progressive. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #26

You have the distinctions backwards ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #34

I disagree. I believe that the classic characterization of a liberal holds here as one who Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #42

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #45

I find the discussion fascinating, but I'm a boring political scientist so what do I know. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #49

I, too, for a time ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #53

Agreed. That we're on the same team is most important! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #58

And like every team ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #61

LOL!! I hope the Falcons remember this rule during this weekend's game! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #68

LOL n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #72

Everyone can find something to hate any US President for lunatica Jan 2013 #10

It is a dark irony 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #29

Why the "dark irony" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #37

Dark Irony 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #40

Understanding ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #41

OBAMA MADE this decision: Nominating Brennan to head CIA 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #54

What part about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #59

The same Senate that's controlled by Democrats, you mean? Romulox Jan 2013 #66

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #71

Q.E.D. nt Romulox Jan 2013 #82

What does Q.E.D. stand for? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #88

"quod erat demonstrandum". nt Romulox Jan 2013 #90

So you agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #94

US Senate has a Democratic majority, no? 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #73

"Runs it" with ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #75

"cognitive dissonance" Romulox Jan 2013 #65

Cognitive dissonance is also a term for those who hate Obama or who lunatica Jan 2013 #78

Nonsense. Against drone killing *before* Obama. Against drone killings *during* Obama's admin. Romulox Jan 2013 #81

Being against everything Obama does because you aren't fulfilled is called cognitive dissonance lunatica Jan 2013 #105

You are making more excuses for Obama's drones...there's that "cognitive dissonance", again... Romulox Jan 2013 #108

And you're in denial lunatica Jan 2013 #116

I'm in denial about the need to kill people secretly with drones? Do tell! Romulox Jan 2013 #118

One of my favorite handles elsewhere 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #84

Just in case it wasn't clear, the term wasn't a term aimed at you, or your line of argument. Romulox Jan 2013 #85

cool ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #91

where's the fuggin UNREC button...tired of this crappola spanone Jan 2013 #12

Second term presidents are weak, and govern through the Washington process, not politics FarCenter Jan 2013 #13

A no frills appraisal, I'd like to see more of that from posters. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #19

The man is the freaking POTUS, he can do whatever the fuck he wants 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #20

Yes, whatever he wants, but not necessarily what his supporters want. FarCenter Jan 2013 #22

At least Ike spoke out against the "military industrial complex" 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #35

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #39

He can't do whatever he wants. The point is there are three separate and distinct Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #25

I was exaggerating, I admit 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #38

Can you at least wait until we're into the second term? The president seems to be Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #48

Nominations & Appointments are NOW underway 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #51

Sigh. o.k. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #56

Obama is also a white POTUS FarCenter Jan 2013 #76

You have posted thoughts today that need to be put out there. amandabeech Jan 2013 #97

Why did we all cry then 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #99

And you know this how? Gimme a break, unless you can prove babylonsister Jan 2013 #52

so a guy you hate got elected -and then re-elected - president? arely staircase Jan 2013 #15

NOT what I said, nor is it how I feel 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #23

. ProSense Jan 2013 #27

LOL Scurrilous Jan 2013 #21

The president is not liberal, but he IS progressive. Trashing thread. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #24

Obama is setting the stage for next 4 years with APPOINTMENTS 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #43

No, but you might wait until he's inaugurated to declare his JoePhilly Jan 2013 #46

Obama apologist mantra: "Wait, wait, wait, wait ... 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #57

Hummm ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #64

Not Mother Theresa. --> Retired 4-Star Admiral William Fallon. 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #79

Of course you reserve the right to criticize. I'm not trying to shut you down. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #55

I call B.S. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #28

NOMINATIONS & APPOINTMENTS 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #44

Nominations initiated by ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #47

The OP was/is about heading up CIA 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #63

Do you really think ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #69

Plame? no. Fallon? yes. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #74

It's being undercut by what calls itself "the Left" in bed with the Right Wing=check out gun overlap patrice Jan 2013 #30

e.g. Why is this post receiving absolutely no comment, despite 3-4 postings: patrice Jan 2013 #31

P.S. Make that "... INTENTIONALLY undercut by what calls itself "the Left" . . . "Left" & Right are patrice Jan 2013 #33

We are about to get 100% amnesty, 95% citizenship. That is liberal enough for me graham4anything Jan 2013 #32

For the second time I voted for a center-right Democrat for president with my eyes wide open. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #36

Did I think Obama was Che Guevara running for 2nd term? 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #50

What, exactly, do you think he can do on those subjects? jeff47 Jan 2013 #62

"Complaining about Obama" 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #70

Again, what are your specific complaints jeff47 Jan 2013 #77

If Obama is so helpless and slavishly duty-bound to "enforce Fed. law" 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #80

Because he's got plenty of other ways to interfere jeff47 Jan 2013 #83

What Obama COULD have done is what he said he would do 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #89

Um, no. jeff47 Jan 2013 #92

You can NOT have it BOTH ways 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #93

I'm not jeff47 Jan 2013 #95

Here you go 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #98

You are 100% wrong. Nobody is forcing Obama to persecute Medical Marijuana. His predecessor Romulox Jan 2013 #109

Except his predecessor did jeff47 Jan 2013 #110

The Obama admin greatly ESCALATED such prosecutions--more in 4 years than W. in 8. Romulox Jan 2013 #111

Because exactly the same number of dispensaries were open jeff47 Jan 2013 #112

Now you're making excuses. Your initial argument is that Obama is *required* to prosecute. Romulox Jan 2013 #113

He is required. jeff47 Jan 2013 #114

"Prosecutorial discretion" is a basic concept in the law. Moreover, the DEA (head appointed by Obama Romulox Jan 2013 #117

Fortunately, Dennis Kucinich isn't doing anything, so he can run as a REAL PROGRESSIVE in 2016... brooklynite Jan 2013 #60

Fuck that. All we ask is that Obama start acting like a Democrat. Dawgs Jan 2013 #67

Geez, his 2nd term hasn't started yet. Let's at least wait for the inauguration. kstewart33 Jan 2013 #86

Yeah, plus look at the mess he inherited n/t leftstreet Jan 2013 #87

You've got it all wrong. You wet your pants pre-emptively. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #103

He's gone left on economic policy. Anyone who was paying attention knew that he wasn't geek tragedy Jan 2013 #100

Another DUer who is shocked and disappointed beyond belief. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #101

I'm much more concerned with domestic policy. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #102

I can agree with you mostly 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #104

The corporate defense crew is here woo me with science Jan 2013 #106

Here ProSense Jan 2013 #107

Wowie Zowie!! Color this Frog totally blind-sided by this slowly boiling water. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #119

I think a lot of people here are buying into the right wing's "he's a Marxist/Socialist" crap tarheelsunc Jan 2013 #115

Perhaps 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #120