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Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
111. WTF...
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jan 2013

...is the point of this OP? To show profound ignorance of ammunition and hunting? If so, it sure succeeded.

EDIT: I was wrong Recursion Jan 2013 #1
The round on the left looks like a .22 long Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #8
Really? jberryhill Jan 2013 #9
Yes really. There's no round I can think of that much smaller than a .223 long Recursion Jan 2013 #12
Looks right to me jberryhill Jan 2013 #20
isn't the important thing rim fire or center fire? and .220 is smaller than .223... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #10
40 grain? Well if we're going to bring in subsonic ammo, ok Recursion Jan 2013 #16
You are completely wrong jberryhill Jan 2013 #24
People buying the most destructive firearm possible will use Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #26
Is this more to your liking? Hoyt Jan 2013 #23
Yes, thank you (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #25
the .22lr seems exactly the same as the original photo Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #29
You are correct jberryhill Jan 2013 #33
Yes, I was completely wrong. Not sure why this bothered me so much Recursion Jan 2013 #36
The brass is much larger for the .223 than the .22 krispos42 Jan 2013 #136
Maybe it's the penny? I'm not sure. I'm using the gimp and checking that it wasn't resized Recursion Jan 2013 #34
You can eyeball it from the length of the reflection jberryhill Jan 2013 #45
Jesus Christ! sadbear Jan 2013 #2
Why do you want bigger ammo than that? Recursion Jan 2013 #3
Yes, I am ignorant about these things. sadbear Jan 2013 #5
If it is, then the one on the left is absurdly small; it's hard to tell the scale Recursion Jan 2013 #6
see post #10 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #14
Yes. It's a deliberately low-power rifle compared to a 30-06 or 308 Recursion Jan 2013 #17
going through a metal pipe is sufficient penetration in my book farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22
Wth? Heimer Jan 2013 #30
you heard me. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #59
Many states actually ban .223/5.56mm ammo for hunting large game. SQUEE Jan 2013 #106
define many for starters- i think more allow it than not farminator3000 Jan 2013 #113
Ummmm....had to edit :P Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #39
ummm, had to go to the nra site, thanks... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #62
Excuse me.... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #69
the topic is whether .223 is a military round. the answer is yes. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74
You *could* but it would be illegal. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #41
not everywhere farminator3000 Jan 2013 #63
.22 centerfire, not 22 Long Rifle sir pball Jan 2013 #77
i have a .22LR- if i wanted to shoot a deer DEAD with it, i could. easily. i don't. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #80
You could shoot it easily. And it most likely would suffer. n/t DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #90
not if i knew what i was doing. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #97
Total BS. DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #112
not BS at all. why does it say dangerous up to 1.5 MILES on the ammo box? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #128
Yes, it is total BS, and it is clear you don't know what you are talking about. DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #144
having too much gun is just as bad as not enough gun farminator3000 Jan 2013 #151
And a .22 isn't a big enough round DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #158
Shenanigans. sir pball Jan 2013 #91
not at all. obviously, the size of the animal, the distance, etc. all matter farminator3000 Jan 2013 #101
It was designed BY the military to be underpowered! sir pball Jan 2013 #82
Two Things wercal Jan 2013 #84
Neither can I, and yet you've seen, they still do BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #15
The big one looks like the 50 cal bullets they use for experiments on MythBusters. RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 #4
That round is not a .50 cal. Glassunion Jan 2013 #11
The big one looks like a 30-06 round, the smaller a 22 long rifle... Scuba Jan 2013 #7
no, it looks like post #10 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #19
Bullshit jberryhill Jan 2013 #28
Thanks, that pic makes the scalar difference more understandable. Are you also calling bullshit ... Scuba Jan 2013 #37
I am calling bullshit on two things jberryhill Jan 2013 #43
The "wildly inaccurate" was regarding the claim that the 223 wasn't a good hunting round. Scuba Jan 2013 #51
.223 Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #52
Yes, posting wildly inaccurate information is not helpful Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #32
The bullet on the left is a .22 caliber used for shooting beer cans... Playinghardball Jan 2013 #13
A .22 can kill a person very well. NT EOTE Jan 2013 #49
If by action you mean actually doing something beyond pounding a keyboard... OneMoreDemocrat Jan 2013 #18
Here, for an attempt at scale. The .223 is *on the LEFT* in this one Recursion Jan 2013 #21
so a .22 cal rifle isn't a rifle? Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #35
Fine. The smallest *centerfire* rifle ammunition sold Recursion Jan 2013 #42
Tons of people. JoeyT Jan 2013 #160
why do you keep trying to pretend that .22s don't exist? .22s KILL things EASILY. also .17 cal=small farminator3000 Jan 2013 #38
Well if a guy on Yahoo Answers shot a deer with a .22lr DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #88
there is supposed to be an element of skill involved in hunting. 50-100 yards, head shot, dead. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #96
You assume that all hunting is done for sport. SQUEE Jan 2013 #108
no, sport means 'only kill what you eat' -true for a lot of people- or at least give away to eat farminator3000 Jan 2013 #124
You think people should be hunting deer with a .22lr from 50-100 yards and aiming for the head? DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #114
head sounds better than lungs to me, but i'm not a hooved herbivore. ask an expert, maybe farminator3000 Jan 2013 #120
You're obviously not a hunter, and have no idea what you are talking about. DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #145
i guess i didn't post enough of this professional deer killer guy before farminator3000 Jan 2013 #150
no the first time was too much. DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #159
Semantics liberal N proud Jan 2013 #79
You gun boys have all lost your UncleYoder Jan 2013 #27
In the interest of some small degree of sanity... JayhawkSD Jan 2013 #31
It is meant for hunting humans. Your using it for prairie dogs does not change Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #40
That's the point that the gun crowd just keep trying to ignore. Hoyt Jan 2013 #44
It did not start as a military round. Few actually do. hack89 Jan 2013 #60
dead wrong. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78
It is damn near ballistically identical to the .222 hack89 Jan 2013 #86
i already posted this for you, but here it is again farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94
The .222 Remington is used in semi-automatics hack89 Jan 2013 #100
that is terrible news, something should be done about that. maybe a ban. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #107
I am saying that fixating on the bullets is stupid hack89 Jan 2013 #109
no, you are trying to change the subject- the .223 is designed to be fired semi-automatically farminator3000 Jan 2013 #115
Again, so what? hack89 Jan 2013 #116
the "what" being that .223 ammo is both overkill and not civilian farminator3000 Jan 2013 #130
So what about other civilian rounds - are they ok? hack89 Jan 2013 #133
you can have whatever you want, as long as you are responsible about it, i'd say farminator3000 Jan 2013 #138
I think a Mini-14 in .222 Remington would work fine for me hack89 Jan 2013 #141
that's cool. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #148
the case is ~2mm longer also Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #95
The fact that you must make false statements to defend this ammunition Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #92
A modification of .001 inches hack89 Jan 2013 #93
How about to .22 like the OP was comparing it to? Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #98
I was correct hack89 Jan 2013 #103
The .222 was developed for a bolt action rifle, so how about Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #104
By that logic every round is bad. hack89 Jan 2013 #105
The OP is a comparison of the two bullets Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #118
Ok. So a 5.56 is more deadly then a smaller, less powerful round. hack89 Jan 2013 #119
There is no arguing with a zealot Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #121
What is.... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #122
How about until mass shootings are a rarity instead of being common place? Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #125
So what is that first step? hack89 Jan 2013 #123
First of all, it is impossible for you to know that doing nothing will produce Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #126
30 years of historical trends make it a pretty safe bet. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #127
More falsehoods. Can't you get anything right? Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #132
I was talking about all gun violence - not a tiny piece of it. hack89 Jan 2013 #135
So what you are suggesting are "some first steps" .... spin Jan 2013 #142
read my response to this exact same question posted earlier Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #146
A quick link would have been helpful. ... spin Jan 2013 #156
Well God knows I am here for no reason other than to be helpful Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #157
Thanks for the link. ... spin Jan 2013 #162
You said you saw my answer to that Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #163
That's fair you didn't suggest that. ... spin Jan 2013 #164
Stop being paranoid. Nobody wants to do what you think we want to do. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #165
I did see that post ... spin Jan 2013 #166
Nobody said stop. Nobody said confiscate Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #167
But you have never stated what your final goal was. ... spin Jan 2013 #168
here are ALL of the f'in bullets, .22 LR is 4th, and .223 is 16th, i think farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46
Are you a hunter? Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #50
no, i'm a farmer. i could kill a deer out of season with a machine gun if it was eating my crops farminator3000 Jan 2013 #56
the original one photograph, 2 bullets concept seems to have gone out the window here farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47
U hunt Deer with a 22? One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #48
This is the simplest explanation of why banning .223 is pointless Xithras Jan 2013 #54
maybe 30-.06s are for real hunters and .223 are for wanna-be's? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #57
Big game - bigger bullet. Small game - smaller bullet hack89 Jan 2013 #64
more guns + bigger mags = more bullets = more innocent people murdered every day. you again? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65
So restrict magazine size - problem solved. hack89 Jan 2013 #66
they already restricted it in NY state AS OF YESTERDAY farminator3000 Jan 2013 #68
Every bullet does that - how do you think bullets work? hack89 Jan 2013 #70
every bullet is the same? ha ha ha ha ha. you can find lot on google in 60 seconds farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72
And your point is what? hack89 Jan 2013 #73
the point, from the OP, is that .223 are military rounds farminator3000 Jan 2013 #75
Except for the non-military ones. hack89 Jan 2013 #83
Is the 30-06 a military round? hack89 Jan 2013 #89
Deer... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #117
And humans... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #131
Humans aren't.. Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #139
and deer aren't... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #143
Explain then... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #147
i think you can work it out yourself. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #149
I hunt elk Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #153
"This ammunition isn’t meant for hunting, it’s meant for warfare. " DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #53
...which was derived from... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #55
The casing makes the bullet look much bigger than it is. bunnies Jan 2013 #58
I am for outlawing the so called asult weopons but the. 223 is a very good round for doc03 Jan 2013 #61
maybe if you are planning on making communist squirrel meatballs farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67
Well dah that's what bullets do. You are not allowed to hunt deer with the doc03 Jan 2013 #134
yes. you are allowed to use it for deer in many states. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #140
You can't in the states I am familiar with and I sure wouldn't doc03 Jan 2013 #152
I preferred the 223 for varmint jdadd Jan 2013 #71
you must enjoy split groundhogs then! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76
Hollow points fragment..... jdadd Jan 2013 #99
I used a Sako .243 for groundhog shot some at 300 yards doc03 Jan 2013 #129
I hunt deer... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #81
Hunters use the same round. Rex Jan 2013 #85
"This ammunition isn’t meant for hunting, it’s meant for warfare." Glassunion Jan 2013 #87
Just MrYikes Jan 2013 #110
Classic misinformation to manipulate the unknowing. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #102
WTF... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #111
Nah, haven't you been reading anything? Its about hunting kids, I mean deer. Or maybe coyote's. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #137
Gun nuts want the one on the right to stay legal SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #154
This one is also legal, even though it serves no actual function it should be SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #155
There's no such thing as a benign bullet. nt rrneck Jan 2013 #161
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