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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:58 PM

hack89 (21,258 posts)

45. But according to many gun grabbers, guns are the only problem

and gun control the only solution.

So there is a lack of balance on both sides.

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49 replies	Author	Time	Post
Warning shot: Gun violence lands US lowest life expectancy among rich nations [View all]	kpete	Jan 2013	OP
How about stress, obesity, the rest?	NYC_SKP	Jan 2013	#1
the study looks at all of those things	Fresh_Start	Jan 2013	#2
the age of the victim matters when looking at life expectancy	unblock	Jan 2013	#4
Unsure, but I suspect if gun-related deaths were excluded our numbers would still suck.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2013	#7
i don't doubt that either.	unblock	Jan 2013	#8
The Study Mentions Those Too	AndyTiedye	Jan 2013	#9
Yeah, infant mortality is the other big drag on our life expectancy	Recursion	Jan 2013	#15
I posted an article about this the other day. Very shocking data!	yardwork	Jan 2013	#3
This wouldn't be the case if we just had MOAR GUNZ!!!!!!!!	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#5
Of course not ... the problem is CLEARLY that there's not ENOUGH Guns in USA	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#19
Same source: Poverty, Nutrition, Under-50s Dying Young.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2013	#6
...	pipoman	Jan 2013	#10
Using that very link you provided, I found 31K deaths by firearms. Quite a significant difference.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#13
Half of those deaths are sucides	hack89	Jan 2013	#16
And still 20+X times the number cited. nt	EOTE	Jan 2013	#18
I don't understand your response. nt	hack89	Jan 2013	#20
The post I responded to said that there were 600 some firearm deaths in 2007, the number is actually	EOTE	Jan 2013	#21
600 accidental deaths. About 30k deaths total	hack89	Jan 2013	#23
I don't think the innocents killed give a damn whether their deaths were accidental or not. NT	EOTE	Jan 2013	#24
Guns are low on the causes of accidental deaths	hack89	Jan 2013	#25
Again, innocents don't give a fuck if they're killed accidentally or not.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#26
So lets focus on mental health and violent criminals	hack89	Jan 2013	#27
How about all the gun nuts stop trying to confuse the issue?	EOTE	Jan 2013	#28
Speaking of frothing	hack89	Jan 2013	#29
I'll demonize those who try to obfuscate the issue so they can continue stroking their guns.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#30
I bought up 30,000 gun deaths. I was confirming your post	hack89	Jan 2013	#31
The person I initially responded to was suggesting that gun deaths are no big deal	EOTE	Jan 2013	#32
I was just confused by your hostile tone to me	hack89	Jan 2013	#33
You were defending a post which tries to state that the number of gun deaths in this country is	EOTE	Jan 2013	#34
No - I was just adding some nuance to your numbers.	hack89	Jan 2013	#35
Historic low for this country, yet still WELL ahead the rest of the developed world.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#36
And they all have national health care that included mental health coverage	hack89	Jan 2013	#37
And the next highest country has one third our rate of gun violence.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#38
Here is something to consider	hack89	Jan 2013	#39
You are familiar with confounding variables, right?	EOTE	Jan 2013	#40
How could they have led to more deaths when the death toll is known and is lower?	hack89	Jan 2013	#41
More guns deaths than there would have been otherwise, comprende?	EOTE	Jan 2013	#42
It's going down steadily. That says a lot.	hack89	Jan 2013	#43
Yes, something is working.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#44
But according to many gun grabbers, guns are the only problem	hack89	Jan 2013	#45
I haven't seen any of those.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#46
If suicides are going to be used as a justification for gun control	hack89	Jan 2013	#47
Derrrrp. I never once suggested that mental health not be a big issue.	EOTE	Jan 2013	#49
Every single delusional gun nut needs to see this:	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#11
This post was hidden by jury decision.	pipoman	Jan 2013	#12
Are you flogging that ABC video again?	Straw Man	Jan 2013	#14
I watched the video and I have to concur with the protestations, at least somewhat ...	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#22
Guns explain part of the difference in life expectancy, but not all of it.	DanTex	Jan 2013	#17
Is the headline offered as an argument against universal health coverage?	cthulu2016	Jan 2013	#48

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