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Chorophyll

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81. If your premise is correct, how in the name of everything logical does having a gun
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

keep you safe from home invasions?

By the way, I live in White Plains and burglaries happen around here. They happened before the map was published, and they will happen after everyone's forgotten the map. This is a city of 40,000 people and a bedroom-community for NYC. Not exactly the boondocks.

Most likely coincidence. Westchester is outside 5 borough's, many own guns upstate. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #1
The Journal News is published in Westchester County, not in the 5 borough's of NYC nt brush Jan 2013 #23
As someone that lives in NY, robbing a house upstate is where alot of legal gun owners live. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #33
Westchester is not "upstate," however. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #78
were the firearms stolen? RedstDem Jan 2013 #2
The report states that the safe where the firearm was stored was tampered with... Earth_First Jan 2013 #6
so it wasn't to deliberately steal guns because they be prepared to deal with a safe. Coincidence. bettyellen Jan 2013 #17
Have you seen videos of idiots trying to steal ATMs? pipoman Jan 2013 #20
As my cop friends say, we can only evaluate the ones we catch riqster Jan 2013 #80
That doesn't necessarily follow. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #30
the gungeoneers have it covered with five different theories - any two of which use opposing logic. bettyellen Jan 2013 #41
So what? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #57
so, people see through it for the BS that it is. bettyellen Jan 2013 #67
Fine... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #69
Plus, if you were to burglarize a home I'd imagine a safe is where you would check for valuables. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #35
But I thought if the bad guys KNEW there was a gun HockeyMom Jan 2013 #3
People who would put up a sign saying there are guns in the home are stupid Marrah_G Jan 2013 #9
Like Those "This Truck Protected By Smith & Wesson" Bumper Stickers. Paladin Jan 2013 #47
+1 denverbill Jan 2013 #10
Not all of the criminals check out the details or know how to read. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #54
They put up signs because they are stupid. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #59
Did they steal the guns? Iggo Jan 2013 #4
Looks like there was an attempt to take the guns siligut Jan 2013 #15
No - there was an attempt leftynyc Jan 2013 #55
It was a gun safe siligut Jan 2013 #63
I'm indifferent - I think the leftynyc Jan 2013 #70
In my experience gun safes do look different siligut Jan 2013 #73
Wait, why would publishing the name of a gun owner PROMOTE a burglary? Atman Jan 2013 #5
To steal the firearms? Indydem Jan 2013 #13
A quicker, higher resale crime... Earth_First Jan 2013 #14
To steal the guns. HappyMe Jan 2013 #22
No, it sure as hell isn't "rocket science." Atman Jan 2013 #32
What a load of tripe. Indydem Jan 2013 #68
Good! bongbong Jan 2013 #90
Well it would be rocket science to come up with an explanation treestar Jan 2013 #98
It wouldn't, except in the fevered imagination of gun nut imbeciles alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #34
Atleast this owner was responsible enough to have them locked in a safe Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #7
^this^ frylock Jan 2013 #83
Any houses not on the list burglarized on Sunday? Downwinder Jan 2013 #8
This is the only correct response. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #29
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #36
That flushes another argument down the toilet KingFlorez Jan 2013 #11
Except that once you strip away anonymity... krispos42 Jan 2013 #37
That's a big stretch Atman Jan 2013 #43
That isn't the point.... KingFlorez Jan 2013 #51
"Coincidentally or not"?? What horseshit. Robb Jan 2013 #12
So you supported the wholesale promoting the names and addresses of these owners? Earth_First Jan 2013 #18
Regardless of what I support, your OP remains horseshit. Robb Jan 2013 #19
Strawman. They never made such a claim. Tempest Jan 2013 #40
Leaves me speechless, so... 99Forever Jan 2013 #16
Well, for once I agree with the gun nuts on something WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2013 #21
Exactly. HappyMe Jan 2013 #25
Then the gun OWNER should be held liable. Atman Jan 2013 #44
You can drive without christx30 Jan 2013 #77
This is a real non-story gollygee Jan 2013 #24
I guess we'll just have to disagree... Earth_First Jan 2013 #26
Something else that would also decrease the movement of illegal firearms gollygee Jan 2013 #28
Really? Earth_First Jan 2013 #31
WAIT WAIT WAIT...you belive it is IRRESPONSIBLE TO PROVIDE TOOLS TO CRIMINALS??? Atman Jan 2013 #48
Who said anything about providing guns to anybody here? Earth_First Jan 2013 #49
You said it was irresponsible to provide tools to criminals. Atman Jan 2013 #53
Some days you just miss having the unrec button Johonny Jan 2013 #27
+1. The poster is having a problem with cause/effect. No evidence of it. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #42
Have a link to support this? nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #38
Here's a link: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #100
So much for deterrence. rug Jan 2013 #39
In closing, I was not aware that this is a RW, NRA meme... Earth_First Jan 2013 #45
For too many if you don't hate gun owners/ownership SpartanDem Jan 2013 #52
hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #58
LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #92
Your premise is predicated on the logical fallacy, post hoc ergo prompter hoc LanternWaste Jan 2013 #99
LOL. Guess the gun didn't stop the perp. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #46
Get Back To Us When You Have Something Beyond "It's Possible." Paladin Jan 2013 #50
I wonder... Orrex Jan 2013 #56
Just wondering.... ReRe Jan 2013 #60
Sorry, but people should have the right to know who in their neighborhood is armed Hugabear Jan 2013 #61
You do not have a right to know what your neighbor owns. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #71
If they own a gun, then yes I should be able to know Hugabear Jan 2013 #95
Thankfully a vast majority disagree with you. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #96
So? How many houses were burglarized that weekend? jberryhill Jan 2013 #62
4 houses recently; 3 of which do NOT appear on the Journal News Map... VOX Jan 2013 #65
White Plains police: Burglary's connection to Journal News gun-permit map 'pure speculation' VOX Jan 2013 #64
It will take an admission by the burglars... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #72
Owning a gun increases the chances you or someone you know will be shot. hunter Jan 2013 #66
You can also find that house on Zillow and Google Earth upaloopa Jan 2013 #74
Burglary usually occurs when no one is home. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #75
So what are you saying here? Kalidurga Jan 2013 #87
You may "know" an NRA talking point. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #88
Neither of those would tell you much about the contents, though. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #76
One robbery meh nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #79
If your premise is correct, how in the name of everything logical does having a gun Chorophyll Jan 2013 #81
A home invasion is different. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #82
I understand that, thanks. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #86
A quick access combo handgun safe opens in two seconds. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #89
of four houses recently burglarized in white plains, only one was included on the list.. frylock Jan 2013 #84
But doesn't this also mean that burglers also knew which homes DID NOT have guns??? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #85
So having a gun didn't prevent the burglary. Kaleva Jan 2013 #91
Why would it? No one is home. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #93
This is moronic. Having grown up near White Plains, I can say that 5 homes are robbed there on any Squinch Jan 2013 #94
It would be silly for gun supporters to generalize from that treestar Jan 2013 #97
Did house next door - with "No gun zone" sign - - get robbed? Hoyt Jan 2013 #101
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