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In the discussion thread: A White Plains home listed on the interactive gun map was burglarized Sunday morning... [View all]

Response to VOX (Reply #64)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:37 PM

Lizzie Poppet (2,465 posts)

72. It will take an admission by the burglars...

...to have any confidence in confirming or denying that the interactive map had anything to do with this case. It still wouldn't be 100% (since they might lie about it...), but as it stands now it is indeed speculation. If a pattern of targeting those houses begins to emerge over time, it would obviously enhance confidence in calling the map an influence...but it's far too soon for that.

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101 replies	Author	Time	Post
A White Plains home listed on the interactive gun map was burglarized Sunday morning... [View all]	Earth_First	Jan 2013	OP
Most likely coincidence. Westchester is outside 5 borough's, many own guns upstate.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#1
The Journal News is published in Westchester County, not in the 5 borough's of NYC nt	brush	Jan 2013	#23
As someone that lives in NY, robbing a house upstate is where alot of legal gun owners live.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#33
Westchester is not "upstate," however.	Chorophyll	Jan 2013	#78
were the firearms stolen?	RedstDem	Jan 2013	#2
The report states that the safe where the firearm was stored was tampered with...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#6
so it wasn't to deliberately steal guns because they be prepared to deal with a safe. Coincidence.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#17
Have you seen videos of idiots trying to steal ATMs?	pipoman	Jan 2013	#20
As my cop friends say, we can only evaluate the ones we catch	riqster	Jan 2013	#80
That doesn't necessarily follow.	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#30
the gungeoneers have it covered with five different theories - any two of which use opposing logic.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#41
So what?	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#57
so, people see through it for the BS that it is.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#67
Fine...	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#69
Plus, if you were to burglarize a home I'd imagine a safe is where you would check for valuables.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#35
But I thought if the bad guys KNEW there was a gun	HockeyMom	Jan 2013	#3
People who would put up a sign saying there are guns in the home are stupid	Marrah_G	Jan 2013	#9
Like Those "This Truck Protected By Smith & Wesson" Bumper Stickers.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#47
+1	denverbill	Jan 2013	#10
Not all of the criminals check out the details or know how to read.	LiberalFighter	Jan 2013	#54
They put up signs because they are stupid.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#59
Did they steal the guns?	Iggo	Jan 2013	#4
Looks like there was an attempt to take the guns	siligut	Jan 2013	#15
No - there was an attempt	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#55
It was a gun safe	siligut	Jan 2013	#63
I'm indifferent - I think the	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#70
In my experience gun safes do look different	siligut	Jan 2013	#73
Wait, why would publishing the name of a gun owner PROMOTE a burglary?	Atman	Jan 2013	#5
To steal the firearms?	Indydem	Jan 2013	#13
A quicker, higher resale crime...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#14
To steal the guns.	HappyMe	Jan 2013	#22
No, it sure as hell isn't "rocket science."	Atman	Jan 2013	#32
What a load of tripe.	Indydem	Jan 2013	#68
Good!	bongbong	Jan 2013	#90
Well it would be rocket science to come up with an explanation	treestar	Jan 2013	#98
It wouldn't, except in the fevered imagination of gun nut imbeciles	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#34
Atleast this owner was responsible enough to have them locked in a safe	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#7
^this^	frylock	Jan 2013	#83
Any houses not on the list burglarized on Sunday?	Downwinder	Jan 2013	#8
This is the only correct response.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2013	#29
ROFL	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#36
That flushes another argument down the toilet	KingFlorez	Jan 2013	#11
Except that once you strip away anonymity...	krispos42	Jan 2013	#37
That's a big stretch	Atman	Jan 2013	#43
That isn't the point....	KingFlorez	Jan 2013	#51
"Coincidentally or not"?? What horseshit.	Robb	Jan 2013	#12
So you supported the wholesale promoting the names and addresses of these owners?	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#18
Regardless of what I support, your OP remains horseshit.	Robb	Jan 2013	#19
Strawman. They never made such a claim.	Tempest	Jan 2013	#40
Leaves me speechless, so...	99Forever	Jan 2013	#16
Well, for once I agree with the gun nuts on something	WhoIsNumberNone	Jan 2013	#21
Exactly.	HappyMe	Jan 2013	#25
Then the gun OWNER should be held liable.	Atman	Jan 2013	#44
You can drive without	christx30	Jan 2013	#77
This is a real non-story	gollygee	Jan 2013	#24
I guess we'll just have to disagree...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#26
Something else that would also decrease the movement of illegal firearms	gollygee	Jan 2013	#28
Really?	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#31
WAIT WAIT WAIT...you belive it is IRRESPONSIBLE TO PROVIDE TOOLS TO CRIMINALS???	Atman	Jan 2013	#48
Who said anything about providing guns to anybody here?	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#49
You said it was irresponsible to provide tools to criminals.	Atman	Jan 2013	#53
Some days you just miss having the unrec button	Johonny	Jan 2013	#27
+1. The poster is having a problem with cause/effect. No evidence of it. n/t	Tempest	Jan 2013	#42
Have a link to support this? nt	msanthrope	Jan 2013	#38
Here's a link:	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2013	#100
So much for deterrence.	rug	Jan 2013	#39
In closing, I was not aware that this is a RW, NRA meme...	Earth_First	Jan 2013	#45
For too many if you don't hate gun owners/ownership	SpartanDem	Jan 2013	#52
hit.nail.head	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#58
LOL	bongbong	Jan 2013	#92
Your premise is predicated on the logical fallacy, post hoc ergo prompter hoc	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#99
LOL. Guess the gun didn't stop the perp. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jan 2013	#46
Get Back To Us When You Have Something Beyond "It's Possible."	Paladin	Jan 2013	#50
I wonder...	Orrex	Jan 2013	#56
Just wondering....	ReRe	Jan 2013	#60
Sorry, but people should have the right to know who in their neighborhood is armed	Hugabear	Jan 2013	#61
You do not have a right to know what your neighbor owns.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#71
If they own a gun, then yes I should be able to know	Hugabear	Jan 2013	#95
Thankfully a vast majority disagree with you.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#96
So? How many houses were burglarized that weekend?	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#62
4 houses recently; 3 of which do NOT appear on the Journal News Map...	VOX	Jan 2013	#65
White Plains police: Burglary's connection to Journal News gun-permit map 'pure speculation'	VOX	Jan 2013	#64
It will take an admission by the burglars...	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#72
Owning a gun increases the chances you or someone you know will be shot.	hunter	Jan 2013	#66
You can also find that house on Zillow and Google Earth	upaloopa	Jan 2013	#74
Burglary usually occurs when no one is home. nt	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#75
So what are you saying here?	Kalidurga	Jan 2013	#87
You may "know" an NRA talking point.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#88
Neither of those would tell you much about the contents, though.	Lizzie Poppet	Jan 2013	#76
One robbery meh	nadinbrzezinski	Jan 2013	#79
If your premise is correct, how in the name of everything logical does having a gun	Chorophyll	Jan 2013	#81
A home invasion is different.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#82
I understand that, thanks.	Chorophyll	Jan 2013	#86
A quick access combo handgun safe opens in two seconds.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#89
of four houses recently burglarized in white plains, only one was included on the list..	frylock	Jan 2013	#84
But doesn't this also mean that burglers also knew which homes DID NOT have guns???	JoePhilly	Jan 2013	#85
So having a gun didn't prevent the burglary.	Kaleva	Jan 2013	#91
Why would it? No one is home.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2013	#93
This is moronic. Having grown up near White Plains, I can say that 5 homes are robbed there on any	Squinch	Jan 2013	#94
It would be silly for gun supporters to generalize from that	treestar	Jan 2013	#97
Did house next door - with "No gun zone" sign - - get robbed?	Hoyt	Jan 2013	#101

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