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Agony

(2,605 posts)
9. "There is no economic law that says that everyone, or even most people, automatically benefit from
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jan 2013

technological progress." We need better economists and leaders then. Our winner-take-all "exceptional" system needs a do-over.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/10/why-workers-are-losing-the-war-against-machines/247278/1/
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At least since the followers of Ned Ludd smashed mechanized looms in 1811, workers have worried about automation destroying jobs. Economists have reassured them that new jobs would be created even as old ones were eliminated. For over 200 years, the economists were right. Despite massive automation of millions of jobs, more Americans had jobs at the end of each decade up through the end of the 20th century. However, this empirical fact conceals a dirty secret. There is no economic law that says that everyone, or even most people, automatically benefit from technological progress.

People with little economics training intuitively grasp this point. They understand that some human workers may lose out in the race against the machine. Ironically, the best-educated economists are often the most resistant to this idea, as the standard models of economic growth implicitly assume that economic growth benefits all residents of a country. However, just as Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Samuelson showed that outsourcing and offshoring do not necessarily increase the welfare of all workers, it is also true that technological progress is not a rising tide that automatically raises all incomes. Even as overall wealth increases, there can be, and usually will be, winners and losers. And the losers are not necessarily some small segment of the labor force like buggy whip manufacturers. In principle, they can be a majority or even 90% or more of the population.

If wages can freely adjust, then the losers keep their jobs in exchange for accepting ever-lower compensation as technology continues to improve. But there's a limit to this adjustment. Shortly after the Luddites began smashing the machinery that they thought threatened their jobs, the economist David Ricardo, who initially thought that advances in technology would benefit all, developed an abstract model that showed the possibility of technological unemployment. The basic idea was that at some point, the equilibrium wages for workers might fall below the level needed for subsistence. A rational human would see no point in taking a job at a wage that low, so the worker would go unemployed and the work would be done by a machine instead.
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That doesn't seem to account for changes in technology dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #1
technology is irrelevant to the fact that workers are taking home less of the value of production HiPointDem Jan 2013 #2
The statement to which I referred is an aggregate one. dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #4
Goggle "Luddite" and think a while lrellok Jan 2013 #6
excellent response, Irellok! Skittles Jan 2013 #13
And the claim everywhere is: burnsei sensei Jan 2013 #3
Better Yet - Per Dubya - Having Two Or Three Or Four Or More Jobs Is Nirvana cantbeserious Jan 2013 #8
30 years of failed conservative economics at work here.. 4dsc Jan 2013 #5
30 Years Of Reaganomics Stuffing The Pockets Of The Ultra Wealthy cantbeserious Jan 2013 #7
"There is no economic law that says that everyone, or even most people, automatically benefit from Agony Jan 2013 #9
Yet the barrier to a higher education grows exponentially (chart) grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #17
Oh, c'mon people. Give it a couple more years and it'll start trickling down to us. progressoid Jan 2013 #10
It is mostly the trade deals causing a decline pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #11
The decline preceded the trade deals by 20 years. And countries with a stronger middle class pampango Jan 2013 #12
The costly trade deals, obviously cost jobs and allow employers to pay people less, that's grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #16
The lowest bidder global economy has created a race to the bottom. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #14
The GOP can claim a victory in their war on the Middle Class. lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #15
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