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In reply to the discussion: New 50-state handgun policy: mandatory Open Carry [View all]ancianita
(35,813 posts)120. Thanks! I appreciate the possibility of fruitcakes in all kinds of places.
There's a number floating around that 200 lives are saved defensively through gun use this past year. That against the 30,000 who've died by guns.
I like this guy, and the possibility that I could get shot around someone open carrying, as he speculates, still doesn't seem to me to be any greater than if I were around concealed carriers. Again, as a non-owner, I'd just like to know who's packing. If he draws fire, I'd know who to run from or to.
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Their very presence is provocative - that is why assholes open carry in the first place
jpak
Jan 2013
#98
I'm not saying they HAVE to carry when they walk out the house if they own one. I hope you
ancianita
Jan 2013
#15
If he wears the gun outside his clothes no one is going to assault him in the first place
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#40
I wear seat belts and drive defensively, I wear a helmet when biking and ride as safely as possible
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#46
There is legislation on how people look in nearly every community in the US
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#109
Your two sentences about trust are the words I have been trying to put together to explain
AlinPA
Jan 2013
#94
Totally with you. But those towns are supplied with guns mostly from us. Our weapons industry.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#13
A nit-pick. Concealed carry is compatible with "guns make society more polite"
cthulu2016
Jan 2013
#14
I don't endorse it. My gun owning friends have said it, so I use their rationalizations here...
ancianita
Jan 2013
#17
There you go. Good argument against mandatory open carry. Which seems macho and stupid.
Matariki
Jan 2013
#53
If we want our 2nd Amendment, we gotta act like grownups about carrying guns.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#20
Yep. You're right. "Cool" doesn't scare anyone or promise to be one click away from civil war.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#134
Fair enough. I've seen video games relax and decompress kids with violent, angry lives. Two of
ancianita
Jan 2013
#136
I don't see a need where private citizens need to carry guns in public, period. Open or concealed.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jan 2013
#21
I was about to call you on all the textbook NRA talking points, but it appears you've been PPR'ed.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jan 2013
#144
Who the hell is saying that everyone has to carry a handgun? No. One. Here. Ever.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#35
Beyond the privacy boundary of food and self defense, publics have a compelling safety interest in
ancianita
Jan 2013
#37
I think your neighbor is correct. Too much Wild West in your proposal. Won't end well.
Matariki
Jan 2013
#51
It may seem unhealthy. It certainly doesn't end well for schools and children, does it.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#57
I don't think the guy who went into Sandy Hook Elementary was hiding his guns
Matariki
Jan 2013
#112
I'm not making a premise or an argument. I'm making a proposal with benefits to non-gun owners.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#113
Right. A real representative example of hard-to-stop crazy. But there's always the head.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#122
Oh noes! That just crushes my probability argument, doesn't it! Because you use some
ancianita
Jan 2013
#61
everyone carrying a gun to satisfy some gun lover's fantasy is pretty silly and scary
samsingh
Jan 2013
#62
I don't know who you mean.Who here are the "gun lovers." Certainly not me. I'm not even a gun owner.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#63
You can skip the "fucking" part. I want to hear more about the "stupid" part, please.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#66
So turning to those openly carrying would be useless? Of course concealers always get the jump
ancianita
Jan 2013
#70
Not at all. I've not said that gun ownership is to be avoided. I see the need for gun ownership.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#72
Fair enough. My reference to children is an oblique reference to Newtown. I'm interested in adults
ancianita
Jan 2013
#74
My first impulse is to say that OC is a humbler display. And fairer by being honest. No one ever
ancianita
Jan 2013
#87
When I see how much CC's put a stop to criminals, then I'll accept your claim. So far I haven't.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#77
You want valid, reliable proofs to prove your hypothical oppinion wrong? Your Op is what you "think"
xoom
Jan 2013
#78
What open carry will do is allow me to determine how far I keep myself from armed people
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#84
The victims of most crimes are themselves criminals, so they would be concealed-carrying too
Recursion
Jan 2013
#79
If you want to frame it that way, I'll claim that concealed carry is also a threat to society. I
ancianita
Jan 2013
#90
If' it's mandatory open carry, what are you going to shoot the open carry assholes with?
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#96
I'M NOT SAYING MORE! I'm saying that those who wear them out in public should let the public know.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#123
I live in a state where you're not supposed to "carry" in public either way.
Chorophyll
Jan 2013
#124
Heh heh. Ya got me. I live in a state that allows both, and the mix is not comfortable
ancianita
Jan 2013
#125
Fine. I've only been trying to decompress public space and thought the idea might help.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#133