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In the discussion thread: I am watching Oliver Stone's "Untold History" and, wow, I have to say ... [View all]

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:01 AM

77. I didn't say anything you just stated

So try again.

The discussion in this particular thread was "was Stalin a bad guy or not," anything else is an assumption made by you.

The problem with the entire series is that Stone downplays all the bad of everyone else, and plays up all the bad of America, instead of giving a more balanced view, which would be a thing called "the truth."

Just a lopsided continuation of shit.

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92 replies	Author	Time	Post
I am watching Oliver Stone's "Untold History" and, wow, I have to say ... [View all]	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	OP
I haven't seen the show	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#1
Yes. What I have posted is just my initial impression from the first two episodes.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#2
Platoon was real and factual	larkrake	Jan 2013	#55
A lot of people are Oliver Stone naysayers,	Blue_In_AK	Jan 2013	#3
A Balanced Response	Protalker	Jan 2013	#4
^ Agree with you ^	Mimosa	Jan 2013	#31
agreed. eom	ellenfl	Jan 2013	#33
+1!	uponit7771	Jan 2013	#52
+1.	Bonobo	Jan 2013	#76
Parts 1, 2, & 3 on Youtube	allrevvedup	Jan 2013	#5
Thanks for the links. n/t	Waiting For Everyman	Jan 2013	#43
Parts 4 - 8	Catherina	Jan 2013	#45
Darlin' ,I just knew you would be able to post the rest of the links I have been looking for!!!	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#47
I HAD to find them!	Catherina	Jan 2013	#48
Thanks for the links everyone, on to episode 3. It'll be a long night. Very interesting.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#53
It was a long night and I'm still not done lol n/t	Catherina	Jan 2013	#62
That last quote is so prophetically accurate.	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#59
Chilling isn't it?	Catherina	Jan 2013	#63
Yes, very prophetic.	allrevvedup	Jan 2013	#69
Amazing quotes from Wallace...	AntiFascist	Jan 2013	#74
Oh yay! Now we get to see him shit on Clinton...	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#67
Are you sure he does?	allrevvedup	Jan 2013	#68
The ending of the last video posted suggests it, yeah...	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#71
Multiple thank yous. n/t	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2013	#81
It's bullshit.	Confusious	Jan 2013	#6
Parts 1 and 2 at least are pretty standard fare.	allrevvedup	Jan 2013	#7
Part 3 is excellent. In fact they all are.	allrevvedup	Jan 2013	#19
Like I said, they're bullshit	Confusious	Jan 2013	#21
I'll keep that perspective in mind, but I still want to finish watching the series.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#28
So did our history books when I was coming up, even at the college level.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2013	#36
balanced? We get the rose colored glasses edition in school	larkrake	Jan 2013	#54
What brutal facts?	Confusious	Jan 2013	#58
We certainly killed civilians by design in Dresden, and the British did the same in Berlin	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2013	#64
I was hoping you would have something new to say	Confusious	Jan 2013	#79
Why don't you point out some specific points you find to be 'bullshit'?	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2013	#84
I already did, but you seem to want to get your outrage on	Confusious	Jan 2013	#87
What is bullshit, exactly?	DanTex	Jan 2013	#29
And we fought the NAZIs in Africa	Confusious	Jan 2013	#37
I think something happened over by Japan too.	Neoma	Jan 2013	#40
Nah, the russians forced the surrender of Japan	Confusious	Jan 2013	#41
The war in North Africa was essentially a sideshow.	DanTex	Jan 2013	#83
They do	Confusious	Jan 2013	#85
But the Italian campaign was pretty small in the scheme of things.	DanTex	Jan 2013	#86
As a part, yes, as a whole, no.	Confusious	Jan 2013	#88
But before D-day, there was (almost) no fighting on the Western Front.	DanTex	Jan 2013	#89
I think we CAN say that it's bullshit	Confusious	Jan 2013	#91
R you kidding me?	Botany	Jan 2013	#8
I am not saying he wasn't a brutal dictator.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#9
When you find yourself saying "I'm not saying Stalin wasn't the most evil person ever, BUT..."	Recursion	Jan 2013	#15
"the most evil person ever".	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#17
Body count usually is a good judge	Confusious	Jan 2013	#22
The big question is, can one directly pin the famines on #1 and #2 of these three.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#30
Yes you can pin it on them	Confusious	Jan 2013	#38
No-one is saying Stalin was a good guy. Just recognizing historical facts	newthinking	Jan 2013	#72
I didn't say anything you just stated	Confusious	Jan 2013	#77
So who starved all those people during the drought years in the US?	malaise	Jan 2013	#11
OMG. Seriously?	Recursion	Jan 2013	#14
FDR had to send them help because they were starving	malaise	Jan 2013	#20
lack of understanding about the prairie environment was 75% of the reason ....	Botany	Jan 2013	#27
Stalin was the world's greatest mass murderer	1-Old-Man	Jan 2013	#10
I have to disagree that Stalin was worse than Hitler.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#16
potential ones	Confusious	Jan 2013	#26
Re-watch Stone's own picture. He downplayed it and left out most of the details but even he tells	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#56
Some of us can seperate the sacrifice and contribution of the Russian people	newthinking	Jan 2013	#73
Really? Can you?	Confusious	Jan 2013	#80
I'd agree with you insofar as saying Stalin had a huge influence on the 20th century	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2013	#65
Haven't seen Oliver Stone's version but did see a Russian documentary on Stalin	lunatica	Jan 2013	#12
The brutality of Stalin's is perhaps underrepresented in the Stone documentary.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#13
Stalin's life is definitely a lesson on how to be a dictator	lunatica	Jan 2013	#18
I'm not trying to excuse the mass murders he commited against his political enemies.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#25
The main point I got from the WWII episodes	WCGreen	Jan 2013	#23
Exactly, maybe people should actually watch it.	newthinking	Jan 2013	#75
real history vs Oliver Stone History	Botany	Jan 2013	#24
^ Agree with you ^	Mimosa	Jan 2013	#32
This post was hidden by jury decision.	infidel dog	Jan 2013	#34
A terrific series. And history as most of the world knows it	Catherina	Jan 2013	#35
Oliver Stone is a conspiracy nut, tin foil hat wearing, moron. period.	crazyjoe	Jan 2013	#39
+	Confusious	Jan 2013	#42
Stone is a far-left propaganda shit spreader.	Archae	Jan 2013	#46
Umm, yes, Stone does go into the atrocities in Berlin.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#66
Stone's son...	Puha Ekapi	Jan 2013	#51
Apple/Tree	otohara	Jan 2013	#60
I think it's great..	Upton	Jan 2013	#44
Same here	Catherina	Jan 2013	#49
Good grief. Stalin murdered millions of his own countrymen...	lanlady	Jan 2013	#50
The Untold History of the US	ReRe	Jan 2013	#57
Folks, try to keep these two facts in mind	DerekG	Jan 2013	#61
Bingo. The Soviet (as they were known back then) military lost between 8,800,000 to....	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#70
Then it sounds like their gov't was courageous and tenacious also.	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2013	#82
Max Hastings' book ...	Straw Man	Jan 2013	#78
I was thinking something similar today...	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#90
kick for more feedback	steve2470	Jan 2013	#92

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