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Fresh_Start

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2. the study looks at all of those things
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

and guns are a significant factor...especially in the death of the young where those lifestyle things you think are important haven't had the opportunity to impact life expectancy yet.

How about stress, obesity, the rest? NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
the study looks at all of those things Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #2
the age of the victim matters when looking at life expectancy unblock Jan 2013 #4
Unsure, but I suspect if gun-related deaths were excluded our numbers would still suck. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #7
i don't doubt that either. unblock Jan 2013 #8
The Study Mentions Those Too AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #9
Yeah, infant mortality is the other big drag on our life expectancy Recursion Jan 2013 #15
I posted an article about this the other day. Very shocking data! yardwork Jan 2013 #3
This wouldn't be the case if we just had MOAR GUNZ!!!!!!!! kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #5
Of course not ... the problem is CLEARLY that there's not ENOUGH Guns in USA brett_jv Jan 2013 #19
Same source: Poverty, Nutrition, Under-50s Dying Young. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #6
... pipoman Jan 2013 #10
Using that very link you provided, I found 31K deaths by firearms. Quite a significant difference. EOTE Jan 2013 #13
Half of those deaths are sucides hack89 Jan 2013 #16
And still 20+X times the number cited. nt EOTE Jan 2013 #18
I don't understand your response. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #20
The post I responded to said that there were 600 some firearm deaths in 2007, the number is actually EOTE Jan 2013 #21
600 accidental deaths. About 30k deaths total hack89 Jan 2013 #23
I don't think the innocents killed give a damn whether their deaths were accidental or not. NT EOTE Jan 2013 #24
Guns are low on the causes of accidental deaths hack89 Jan 2013 #25
Again, innocents don't give a fuck if they're killed accidentally or not. EOTE Jan 2013 #26
So lets focus on mental health and violent criminals hack89 Jan 2013 #27
How about all the gun nuts stop trying to confuse the issue? EOTE Jan 2013 #28
Speaking of frothing hack89 Jan 2013 #29
I'll demonize those who try to obfuscate the issue so they can continue stroking their guns. EOTE Jan 2013 #30
I bought up 30,000 gun deaths. I was confirming your post hack89 Jan 2013 #31
The person I initially responded to was suggesting that gun deaths are no big deal EOTE Jan 2013 #32
I was just confused by your hostile tone to me hack89 Jan 2013 #33
You were defending a post which tries to state that the number of gun deaths in this country is EOTE Jan 2013 #34
No - I was just adding some nuance to your numbers. hack89 Jan 2013 #35
Historic low for this country, yet still WELL ahead the rest of the developed world. EOTE Jan 2013 #36
And they all have national health care that included mental health coverage hack89 Jan 2013 #37
And the next highest country has one third our rate of gun violence. EOTE Jan 2013 #38
Here is something to consider hack89 Jan 2013 #39
You are familiar with confounding variables, right? EOTE Jan 2013 #40
How could they have led to more deaths when the death toll is known and is lower? hack89 Jan 2013 #41
More guns deaths than there would have been otherwise, comprende? EOTE Jan 2013 #42
It's going down steadily. That says a lot. hack89 Jan 2013 #43
Yes, something is working. EOTE Jan 2013 #44
But according to many gun grabbers, guns are the only problem hack89 Jan 2013 #45
I haven't seen any of those. EOTE Jan 2013 #46
If suicides are going to be used as a justification for gun control hack89 Jan 2013 #47
Derrrrp. I never once suggested that mental health not be a big issue. EOTE Jan 2013 #49
Every single delusional gun nut needs to see this: Zoeisright Jan 2013 #11
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #12
Are you flogging that ABC video again? Straw Man Jan 2013 #14
I watched the video and I have to concur with the protestations, at least somewhat ... brett_jv Jan 2013 #22
Guns explain part of the difference in life expectancy, but not all of it. DanTex Jan 2013 #17
Is the headline offered as an argument against universal health coverage? cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #48
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