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37. Apparently you're not up on drive by shootings

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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:56 PM

Jan 2013

Many are done with semi-automatics.

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An Ohio School District Is Arming Its School Custodians With Handguns [View all] FarCenter Jan 2013 OP

But first, Turbineguy Jan 2013 #1

yup, i guess the figure the custodian is a single most expendable employee at a school. unblock Jan 2013 #3

I hope the custodians negotiated a raise for their additional Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #2

Guard services don't pay particularly well. FarCenter Jan 2013 #4

That would be the very first question I would ask if I were one Tempest Jan 2013 #5

not only targets... but also they are taking on liability Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #8

Or if one of their stray bullets hits a student or teacher Tempest Jan 2013 #34

Sometimes the school district will pay Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #36

How long before some student will get shot. tblue Jan 2013 #6

Bad management practice. Stupid politics. Principals in all states are THE primary point person for ancianita Jan 2013 #7

Hard to say about qualifications? Some custodians may be veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. FarCenter Jan 2013 #9

That's too random and undependable as a practice in securing schools. Having "some" isn't a ancianita Jan 2013 #10

A posted, uniformed, armed guard can be useful, but only if you're out of the mass shooting mindset Recursion Jan 2013 #11

So because it can help in some cases Aerows Jan 2013 #13

Well, that's the opposite of what I'm suggesting Recursion Jan 2013 #16

They aren't rare though Aerows Jan 2013 #20

I don't know who decided this, but 4 fatalities in one incident is the "official" definition Recursion Jan 2013 #21

607 people Aerows Jan 2013 #23

I keep banging my head into this wall, but... Recursion Jan 2013 #31

I'm a much bigger fan Aerows Jan 2013 #35

Form and function Recursion Jan 2013 #44

Apparently you're not up on drive by shootings Tempest Jan 2013 #37

Not rifles, though Recursion Jan 2013 #41

Semi automatic machine guns that are legal to purchase. Tempest Jan 2013 #42

Something is either semi-automatic or a machine gun Recursion Jan 2013 #45

An Uzi is a semi-automatic machine gun. So it's not either/or. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #49

No, an Uzi is not semi-automatic Recursion Jan 2013 #50

How about from the manufacturer? Would that be good enough? Tempest Jan 2013 #53

That's an "Uzi pistol", not an "Uzi submachinegun" Recursion Jan 2013 #54

You're seriously going to debate between a semi-automatic machine gun Tempest Jan 2013 #60

Yes. One is automatic and one is semi-automatic. Recursion Jan 2013 #61

Endless obsession about gun details bongbong Jan 2013 #65

And his clock has just run out. Tempest Jan 2013 #66

No ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #72

NOT true. Every security person knows that entry points are exactly the control points for school ancianita Jan 2013 #17

Why do you agree with me but then say "NOT true"? Recursion Jan 2013 #19

Oh. I guess because your example of how security doesn't work seemed to argue against your ancianita Jan 2013 #25

Doesn't work against lone gunman mass shooter types Recursion Jan 2013 #32

Lone gunmen Aerows Jan 2013 #40

I'm ready to address this if you can link some critical mass of "exceptions" that you imply here. ancianita Jan 2013 #43

I'm not against guards, just against them having guns Recursion Jan 2013 #46

Having unarmed entry guards in a country of 300 million guns makes absolutely no sense. ancianita Jan 2013 #48

Good security practices? marions ghost Jan 2013 #63

How come no one is asking why we need guns in schools?? Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #12

You can't fix the problem 100% Aerows Jan 2013 #18

So you are advocating confiscation to fix the problem? dkf Jan 2013 #26

Is that what was said? Even close? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27

In other words, just another post from dkf. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #38

Yes, that's exactly what EVERYONE in this thread Aerows Jan 2013 #51

+1 Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #58

Show me where I said anything close to what you suggest ........ Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #67

I predict you won't get a meaningful reply from that one. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #73

Wasn't there an armed guard at the latest school shooting? SheilaT Jan 2013 #14

Principals know that for every entry and exit point you need an armed guard, and their communities ancianita Jan 2013 #30

Are you really advocating this? marions ghost Jan 2013 #64

It's not advocacy as much as it is pragmatics. ancianita Jan 2013 #71

Other countries have managed to take the guns away. SheilaT Jan 2013 #68

I would totally agree with this. The problem is the registering. I've suggested that every state ancianita Jan 2013 #69

Guard wasn't there. He was snowed in and didn't make it. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #39

And of course, that will never happen again SheilaT Jan 2013 #74

... Robb Jan 2013 #15

Oh, Snap! Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #22

I have never been in a school where the janitor was anything less than a charity hire. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #28

They are going to find his retirement grease. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #24

In a local school district mainstreetonce Jan 2013 #29

I know that if the custodians would have had guns when I went to school, I would have been shot liberal N proud Jan 2013 #33

who ensures that the custodians can be trusted and won't cause more damage samsingh Jan 2013 #47

unanimously... hmmph (nt) OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #52

Armed custodians if we can't get cops we'll used the guys with mops Historic NY Jan 2013 #55

Weren't these the guys Politicalboi Jan 2013 #56

Tell me this is an Onion article? Rex Jan 2013 #57

And then it will lay them off due to the cost ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #59

This is like a script for a bad Splatter movie. leveymg Jan 2013 #62

This is a bad idea. It just makes the custodians the first target of any shooter. JVS Jan 2013 #70