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HiPointDem

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37. Rick Nevin wants to use tax money to replace windows in REOs to increase their value to
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jan 2013

'investors'.

He doesn't want to clean up superfund sites.

I Am Inclined To Agree, Sir: Pretty Fishy The Magistrate Jan 2013 #1
Indeed. There are a lot of angles; one is that attributing social problems to lead exposure means HiPointDem Jan 2013 #3
Nothing Works So Good As Plenty Of Jobs At Good Pay, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #4
and yet, lead really is a special case, because it's most prevalent source was eliminated CreekDog Jan 2013 #22
Except... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #13
"Multiple countries" = 6, all in western europe. Japan, for example, was not investigated. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #34
Because we all know what a right wing tool Mother Jones is? fasttense Jan 2013 #21
Keep Leaping To Conclusions Like That, Sir, You Will Come A Cropper The Magistrate Jan 2013 #28
Rick Nevin wants to use tax money to replace windows in REOs to increase their value to HiPointDem Jan 2013 #37
Link from Wednesday here in the UK dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #2
You notice they don't cite the studies (so you can't read them); only one researcher's name is HiPointDem Jan 2013 #6
I appreciate that. dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #8
I'd also be interested in knowing what Mielke's actually degreed in -- he got his PhD in 1972, HiPointDem Jan 2013 #9
I thought the decrease in crime since the 90s was a function of boomers getting older JVS Jan 2013 #5
However, if lead exposure directly caused violent behavior at a neurological level, you'd expect HiPointDem Jan 2013 #7
"Directly caused", no, more like "contributed to" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #15
yes, i understand that men tend to be more violent than women, & young men more so than HiPointDem Jan 2013 #46
Article of interest 2on2u Jan 2013 #10
Popular articles on such topics aren't worth much. Lead is a neurotoxin, that's not controversial. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #11
Probably because someone has found a way to get free stuff stemming from a bad 2on2u Jan 2013 #14
being as the paper is from 2007, actually it is pretty new. and given the lack of similar papers, HiPointDem Jan 2013 #16
... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #18
"boys may be even more susceptible than girls...this study is the first to document a statistically HiPointDem Jan 2013 #45
I will give it my best when I get home.... it is common knowledge that boys tend to exhibit 2on2u Jan 2013 #29
I saw there's a new paper out about lead & ADHD too. They're hitting it hard. But it made me HiPointDem Jan 2013 #44
Some people treat from a biochemical standpoint, take the Pfeifer Research Center for 2on2u Jan 2013 #60
What I'm asking is, if it's so certain that lead is a leading cause of ADHD, why don't diagnosis & HiPointDem Jan 2013 #61
Multifactorial comes to mind, some toxicity issues mimick genetic illness/syndromes, so it is 2on2u Jan 2013 #64
If lead is supposedly a major cause, yes, it's hard to imagine why testing wouldn't be routine. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #66
Except that's hardly the only source for this Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #12
Yeah. I'm kind of surprised this is so surprising to people Recursion Jan 2013 #24
LOL. It hasn't been 'studied extensively' at all. Take your link, for example: HiPointDem Jan 2013 #25
They did the study *because the etiology was already established*, which you keep ignoring Recursion Jan 2013 #33
The etiology of lead & neurotoxicity/IQ. Not violence. Violence isn't the reason they were doing HiPointDem Jan 2013 #43
Neurotoxicity and prefrontal lobe damage can lead to aggressive and violent behaviour Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #62
key word: 'can'. not 'is' on some predictable basis. most patients with frontal lobes lesions HiPointDem Jan 2013 #65
they correlate well though. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #68
no. they don't 'correlate well'. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #69
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #70
lol. you post random research you haven't read & pretend you know what you're talking about. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #71
Hardly "random" and I've read enough on the subject... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #72
get the lead out Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #17
I'm all for getting the lead out of toxic sites, reducing smelter emissions & similar projects. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #32
It did sound like a preposterous theory. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #19
The Nation did a long, fairly extensive article on this in March 2000. Fuddnik Jan 2013 #20
It doesn't say anything significant about lead as a causal factor in violent crime, because the HiPointDem Jan 2013 #26
You read that 10 page article in five minutes? Fuddnik Jan 2013 #36
I read part of that article before. I also happen to be fairly confident there is only one HiPointDem Jan 2013 #42
Is this really the first you guys have heard of the lead-antisocial link? Recursion Jan 2013 #23
Lead is a well-known neurotoxin. The research on links to violence is minimal, correlative only, HiPointDem Jan 2013 #30
I'm not sure "correlation" means what you think it does Recursion Jan 2013 #31
The research on lead and 'anti-social behavior' going back to the 50s is weak (as might be guessed HiPointDem Jan 2013 #41
"Lead-safe window replacement"? Oy. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27
It's not just inner-city housing he's talking about. It's any/all bank-owned property that could HiPointDem Jan 2013 #38
Which pushes back even harder on "lead-safe". Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #39
Regardless of provenance quaker bill Jan 2013 #35
I agree, it bears looking into. And I agree, the evidence tying the correlation to levels of HiPointDem Jan 2013 #40
Good data and analysis is good data and analysis quaker bill Jan 2013 #53
I would too, except that in this case this particular author appears to be cited in nearly every HiPointDem Jan 2013 #54
Meta analysis is legit as an endeavor quaker bill Jan 2013 #55
he's not doing meta-analysis. there isn't even enough in the literature for it. He's HiPointDem Jan 2013 #56
More like journalism then? quaker bill Jan 2013 #58
More like selective review of the (limited) literature. Though I question any lit review that cites HiPointDem Jan 2013 #59
About that "inner city" objection jeff47 Jan 2013 #47
actually, no, there were more whites in a lot of those urban areas, most notably nyc. if lead HiPointDem Jan 2013 #48
NYC also had lots of non-black crime jeff47 Jan 2013 #49
who is Rick Nevin RickNevin Jan 2013 #50
Wow. Rapid response team, or what? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #51
Let me try this one more time RickNevin Jan 2013 #57
Who stands to profit the most from your suggested solution? NT rbixby Jan 2013 #52
Big banks qualify for taxpayer funded lead abatement? Oilwellian Jan 2013 #63
Citations to The Bell Curve definitely runs up a red flag for me. yardwork Jan 2013 #67
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