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20. Both math and economics are part of a liberal arts education.

Reply to hfojvt (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:20 PM

Jan 2013

Do you really think that they are useless to you? If you had it to do over, would you have chosen different majors?

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More And More Of America's PhDs Are On Welfare [View all] FarCenter Jan 2013 OP

So, for the general population, it's 15%, but for advanced degrees it's less than 2% alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #1

And those numbers are for people with Master's degrees as well as PhDs. yardwork Jan 2013 #14

they should have studied something useful like business or football datasuspect Jan 2013 #2

People sometimes make bad choices, whether buying a house they can't afford or getting a degree for jody Jan 2013 #3

I used to work for an agency counseling disabled people on employment ebbie15644 Jan 2013 #5

That really isn't the goal of going to school. HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #10

The Bachelor's of Arts and Sciences was orginally a finshing school for the bourgeoisie FarCenter Jan 2013 #12

The facts don't support this right-wing talking point. yardwork Jan 2013 #16

English and History have been useful mainly as prereqs for the MBA or JD FarCenter Jan 2013 #21

That's exactly my point. yardwork Jan 2013 #23

What field is your job in? Orrex Jan 2013 #33

Both. I combined them. Love my job! yardwork Jan 2013 #51

You're lucky that you had that opportunity Orrex Jan 2013 #55

I know that and I do feel blessed. One of the biggest problems is lack of job security. yardwork Jan 2013 #61

All true. Orrex Jan 2013 #65

So true! My mom started in on "you boomers" the other day. yardwork Jan 2013 #69

The inflation adjusted value of $1 in 1972 is $5.51 in 2012; So making "nine times" is actually 1.63 FarCenter Jan 2013 #74

Absolutely. But what about the loss in value of my place purchased in 2007? yardwork Jan 2013 #75

Investing in real estate is no sure thing. It has done less well than other asset classes FarCenter Jan 2013 #76

Technical degrees are also given by accreditied colleges and universities FarCenter Jan 2013 #48

I agree, but the right-wingers who are trying to dismantle higher education don't. yardwork Jan 2013 #50

The No. 1 undergrad major at Yale is history KamaAina Jan 2013 #42

Yale is more of a pre-law, foreign service, and CIA breeding ground FarCenter Jan 2013 #47

That's right. In fact, Agent Mike himself was in my Psychology of Personality class. KamaAina Jan 2013 #49

Brava! yardwork Jan 2013 #52

Perhaps the new version of "working in the family company" is going to the right school, hedgehog Jan 2013 #53

I thought Yale was a liberal arts school where you get a broad education and build a network. Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #77

I know! I would tell some of them to FIRST train for a job ebbie15644 Jan 2013 #79

Actually. If the goal of the violin player was to understand all aspects of the violin and bluestate10 Jan 2013 #62

The goal is to be able to get a job and support yourself! ebbie15644 Jan 2013 #78

Read the article. 98% of them AREN'T needing assistance leftstreet Jan 2013 #7

Siiiiiiigh. So I guess "working harder" is no longer enough; you now have to be a fortune teller. HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #9

How do you know there will be no demand 4-6 years down the road? blueclown Jan 2013 #11

You would probably be very surprised. Most CEOs have degrees in History or English. yardwork Jan 2013 #15

my degrees in math an economics have sure been useless hfojvt Jan 2013 #17

Both math and economics are part of a liberal arts education. yardwork Jan 2013 #20

What definition of liberal arts education are you using? Orrex Jan 2013 #27

BOTH math and art history are part of a liberal arts curriculum. yardwork Jan 2013 #58

Interesting. Penn State certainly didn't define it that way Orrex Jan 2013 #60

Very few people major in "liberal arts." They choose a major from within liberal arts. yardwork Jan 2013 #63

You're messing with my brain Orrex Jan 2013 #68

well if either of my alma maters would send me my degree in cloth hfojvt Jan 2013 #28

Deriding someone's bad choices is a convenient way to blame the victim Orrex Jan 2013 #26

A PhD in a field should be at such a high level that he or she can create new lines of thought bluestate10 Jan 2013 #59

Sounds great but that's not how the market for PhDs works. Agree they followed a dream but there was jody Jan 2013 #67

So that's 1.6% of all of those holding advanced degrees is receiving assistance? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #4

Initiative, creativity, and flexibility matter; degrees do not aristocles Jan 2013 #6

Would your life have been better had you chosen different degrees? FarCenter Jan 2013 #8

No. It's a wonderful life n/t aristocles Jan 2013 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #18

Wow. I didn't get that from that post at all. yardwork Jan 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #22

I didn't read it that way at all. yardwork Jan 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #30

It's ok. I know you to be a very reasonable poster so I guessed that you were interpreting yardwork Jan 2013 #81

The value of humanities degrees aristocles Jan 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #29

"Good employment depends on initiative, creativity, and flexibility." Orrex Jan 2013 #32

"initiative, creativity, and flexibility" - You forgot about luck... blueclown Jan 2013 #37

Based on the data in the OP, less then 2% of those with advanced degrees are on assistance. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #43

Some of you younger people may not know that companies used to hire liberal arts majors Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #31

Exactly right. Thinking people need not apply. Obedient drones with the capacity Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #34

Makes sense, I work in IT which is mostly L1\H1s they say they don't get a rounded eduction... uponit7771 Jan 2013 #36

Based on the data in the OP, less then 2% of those with advanced degrees are on assistance. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #44

More proof the MIC is a welfare program, if we REALLY needed to spend that much money on the MIC uponit7771 Jan 2013 #35

Misleading title - food stamps and unemployment are not "welfare" yellowcanine Jan 2013 #38

What is your definition of welfare? blueclown Jan 2013 #39

What is today known as Temporary Cash Assistance. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #40

Many people working as adjunct professors are eligible for food stamps JPZenger Jan 2013 #41

Itinerant scholars aristocles Jan 2013 #45

That's because the universities are saving money by shifting teaching to adjuncts, yardwork Jan 2013 #54

Okay so I admit I was taking a chance obliviously Jan 2013 #46

I can believe this even in things like hard science redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #56

Thankfully, I will not be one of them... a la izquierda Jan 2013 #57

I have two of those allegedly good-to-get-jobs degrees. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #64

Think of the people who majored in Computer Science in the 1980s yardwork Jan 2013 #66

And replaced with card holders from Asia. nt jody Jan 2013 #70

Exactly. yardwork Jan 2013 #73

Piled High Debt The Second Stone Jan 2013 #71

360,ooo out of 22,000,000 doesn't seem all that many DonRedwood Jan 2013 #72

NONE of our best and brightest should be struggling to find work. THAT'S what's wrong with these ##s riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #80