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dembotoz

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71. if voip is so wonderful then why are they against code for lines that can not go down

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:19 PM

Jan 2013

alarm lines
elevator lines

due to the exteranal power source

both dsl and coax cable internet are best effort products
no sla's never will. Best effort generally means they will fix it when they get around to it.

try to go into a building and provision an elevator line or an alarm line with voip or cell.
You will get laughed at.

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“The telephone network is obsolete”: Get ready for the all-IP telco (AY&T wants to screw YOU) [View all] DainBramaged Jan 2013 OP

This is a must read. jsr Jan 2013 #1

More eggs in one basket. More fragile system overall. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #2

During the two weeks we were without power from Sandy DainBramaged Jan 2013 #3

I have a copper line undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #5

How long was your power out? Kooljas Jan 2013 #19

14 days DainBramaged Jan 2013 #21

During Sandy, FIOS was down by Verizon wireless stayed up FarCenter Jan 2013 #26

FIOS should also Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #52

FiOS stayed up for 8 hours on the battery, but we were without power for over a week. FarCenter Jan 2013 #55

If the Analog TV channels weren't done away with.. undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #4

+1 ! KoKo Jan 2013 #11

I pay 30 cents a gallon for drinking water demwing Jan 2013 #29

OTA digital tv is great! Politicub Jan 2013 #41

That's what we do too. We get about 27 OTA digital channels here. Then, we RKP5637 Jan 2013 #59

Yes. DISH dropped our local ABC affiliate two days before a significant winter storm Skidmore Jan 2013 #45

Down thread JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #6

fuck those pricks. i knew they'd pull this. how we're herded into their approved corrals. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #7

It's already all IP on the back end RomneyLies Jan 2013 #8

Luddite thinking. DainBramaged Jan 2013 #9

I can't speak to the rest, but the system IS already all IP on the back end. That much I know. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #15

Can you link to what they say? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #22

This is about eliminating THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of jobs DainBramaged Jan 2013 #48

I am well, thank you muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #61

I have a feeling the website is a little behind the news.... DainBramaged Jan 2013 #64

As one who just retired from the business copper will be around for a long time. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #53

Fiber, cable and wire to the permises is too expensive; will be fiber to the neighborhood + wireless FarCenter Jan 2013 #84

You know, the people who wrote this should have bothered to find out what all IP is actually like jeff47 Jan 2013 #10

Could you explain... KoKo Jan 2013 #12

Sure jeff47 Jan 2013 #23

Thanks jeff47. KoKo Jan 2013 #35

Cellphone isn't much use if storm knocks down cell towers Autumn Colors Jan 2013 #39

There really isn't perfect "emergency" communication jeff47 Jan 2013 #43

I am in Fl Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #85

Actually, the problem you're describing is when the tower is overwhelmed with demand jeff47 Jan 2013 #86

Yep, similar set up here. I used the router and a VOIP OBI110 on a large APC UPS. Then I use RKP5637 Jan 2013 #60

Edited to say, "what he said, above" DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #25

I recently switched my phone over to ooma hogwyld Jan 2013 #16

You didn't bother to read any of my comments did you? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #20

In your scenario, jeff47 Jan 2013 #24

Wow. TY for this information. I feel like I should have known this think Jan 2013 #30

When the phone lines are dead who ya gonna call DainBramaged Jan 2013 #32

Sorry. I was just referring to what exists currently and in no way think Jan 2013 #33

I was just being silly.... DainBramaged Jan 2013 #42

FYI DainBramaged Jan 2013 #31

And if they had plugged their phone into a POTS line, they still could have called 911. jeff47 Jan 2013 #44

(SIGH) Guess what where I live THERE ARE NO FUCKING JACKS IN THE WALLS DainBramaged Jan 2013 #46

wow bra, kinda harsh eh? Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #56

No kinda harsh is a lot worse. I get tired of people thinking their solution DainBramaged Jan 2013 #62

Is it possible the statement was merely general in fashion Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #87

So whine at your builder, not your phone provider jeff47 Jan 2013 #57

Oh Jesus Christ if you had READ MY POSTS I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, 50 years old DainBramaged Jan 2013 #63

Because 100-year-old technology would not be included in 50 year old buildings. jeff47 Jan 2013 #79

If you can afford a hard line hogwyld Jan 2013 #34

Do you really think the elderly can remember to keep a phone charged and then DainBramaged Jan 2013 #40

VoIP and SS7 Engineer here, ask my anything, this article was written by a fucking idiot snooper2 Jan 2013 #13

U.S. Internet Users Pay More for Slower Service KoKo Jan 2013 #14

This thread was about carriers switching to VoIP, but that is a good read as well.. snooper2 Jan 2013 #18

Steppers forever! IDemo Jan 2013 #36

LOL, everyone gets channel banks and key systems... snooper2 Jan 2013 #38

That's got to be a museum piece Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #54

Hehehe I started with the old 1010's and DMS100's Drew Richards Jan 2013 #50

When we got a letter from our telco stating... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #82

DB...some personal experience with "Bundling of Service" ATT/UVERSE ,COMCAST, Time-Warner KoKo Jan 2013 #17

my husband worked in the telcom business liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #27

The problem that the phone companies face Not Me Jan 2013 #28

During Sandy RobinA Jan 2013 #37

Some people aren't terrified of new technologies. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #47

But many people HATE Unions and will use any excuse to bust them down DainBramaged Jan 2013 #49

Some in the population definitely have problems with it...Should they be Abandoned? KoKo Jan 2013 #75

A lot of that is already here. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #51

I don't, and MILLIONS don't. At home. DainBramaged Jan 2013 #66

Corporate scheming? Paranoid much? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #80

Err...many of us already have IP telephones from AT&T. Mine was installed by a union installer Xithras Jan 2013 #58

No UVerse in NJ, AT&T pulled out of the market, Verizon is shrinking FIOS instead of expanding DainBramaged Jan 2013 #65

I see a lot of the same thing you do, everyone assumes what works for them is universally applicable Fumesucker Jan 2013 #70

You seem to be equating "not everywhere yet" with "not everywhere ever" Xithras Jan 2013 #73

This is essentially correct, but take it further. Telephony, television, advertising, Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #67

Fuck it, you win. DainBramaged Jan 2013 #68

Privacy Trillo Jan 2013 #69

if voip is so wonderful then why are they against code for lines that can not go down dembotoz Jan 2013 #71

I have a Sat Dish for TV, Another Dish for Internet so now I will get a Sat Phone for the house stultusporcos Jan 2013 #72

You really think that will work? How so? KoKo Jan 2013 #74

Because it works now stultusporcos Jan 2013 #76

Folks I know with DISH...have power outages with Rain and Storms, though. KoKo Jan 2013 #78

I have a rectifier, power conditioner and ups in my house attached to the main power stultusporcos Jan 2013 #81

We have a co-op here. I love it. We get money back every year. I also get our computer hookup southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #77

No news there: AT&T (the rebranded Baby Bell SWB) has been trying to screw us for years REP Jan 2013 #83