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Mimosa

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28. Violent culture + psychoactive drugs prescribed to kids...

Reply to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:46 AM

Jan 2013

I've been studying the issue for 25+ years.

What bothers me is that in focusing on weapons we may be ignoring other factors which lead to violence.

For instance:

http://news.discovery.com/human/dark-knight-shooting-violence-120720.html

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Partial transcript from Gun Control portion of my show tonight on debunking gun myths [View all] stevenleser Jan 2013 OP

Did you see the wsj piece on better ER procedures Robb Jan 2013 #1

I didnt but I am going to check it out! stevenleser Jan 2013 #2

Try doing some research on gun-related homicides in Dallas over the past 4-5 years derby378 Jan 2013 #3

Apples and oranges comparison. krispos42 Jan 2013 #4

So you think suicides are OK? NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #5

Sometimes. krispos42 Jan 2013 #6

As I noted, this is only a partial transcript. There are other stats that round out the story stevenleser Jan 2013 #7

That's commonly called the "body count fallacy" slackmaster Jan 2013 #9

I made no such assertion. It's one in a number of statistics I quoted on the show that complete the stevenleser Jan 2013 #11

But you only have to win the jackpot once to make it worth-while! jmg257 Jan 2013 #10

And that same logic keeps tens of millions spending crazy money on lotto tickets when they will stevenleser Jan 2013 #12

AND spending money on guns to fullfill the perceived need for self-defense. Justification. jmg257 Jan 2013 #13

Kick stevenleser Jan 2013 #8

BTW, where did you hear this "more guns = less murder" myth? nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #14

Tons of pro-gun folks made the assertion in responses to posts last week on my show's FB page stevenleser Jan 2013 #15

Thanks - I'll check it out! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #16

How do they determine "gun ownership per household?" regjoe Jan 2013 #17

See the links in my OP to the article on my blogpage. All the backup links are there. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #18

Um, yeah regjoe Jan 2013 #19

County stats wouldnt be particularly compelling to me because you can transport guns between stevenleser Jan 2013 #20

How accurate are state stats though regjoe Jan 2013 #22

No because of exactly the point I raised. You can bring guns purchased from the burbs into the city. stevenleser Jan 2013 #23

... regjoe Jan 2013 #24

Your question is irrelevant. The average of a state where there is high gun ownership versus stevenleser Jan 2013 #25

Pigeonhole the discussion? regjoe Jan 2013 #26

Um, yeah. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #21

Steven, please read Mimosa Jan 2013 #27

What am I supposed to get from this superficial characterization of people? It's worthless. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #29

Considering another perspective? Mimosa Jan 2013 #30

This is the Beavis and Butthead perspective on Gun Control advocates. There is nothing to consider. stevenleser Jan 2013 #31

Facts and stats are at the link too. Mimosa Jan 2013 #32

"Elitists...Authoritarians...Criminals..." Paladin Jan 2013 #33

Violent culture + psychoactive drugs prescribed to kids... Mimosa Jan 2013 #28

Certainly there are many factors which lead to violent behavior..... groundloop Jan 2013 #34

Exactly. Paladin Jan 2013 #35