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No. sibelian Jan 2013 #1
Many white men are still doing nasty things and then when they are called it, it's "reverse racism" MightyMopar Jan 2013 #4
Many aren't. What is your point? Kurska Jan 2013 #56
No link was made between the nasty things occurring and any nasty white men. Bradical79 Jan 2013 #63
There is no such thing as reverse racism Major Nikon Jan 2013 #99
If you think about the term "reverse racism" shouldn't that really mean... Cary Jan 2013 #281
That Idea, of Course, On the Road Jan 2013 #380
You misinterpret. annabanana Jan 2013 #5
yep. i think it's worse now since times are tougher for everyone- men compare their fortunes to bettyellen Jan 2013 #11
But it has ALWAYS been that way tblue Jan 2013 #152
yes, I'm just saying the current recession is causing a spike in resentment and fear. bettyellen Jan 2013 #162
No. Times aren't tougher for everyone. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #172
HA HA, the baseline on this chart was when women made 55% of what men did for same job bettyellen Jan 2013 #183
No. My post seems to say that your premise is hogwash. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #188
you're not going to get any sympathy when you're ignoring the real issue of stagnation of wages bettyellen Jan 2013 #191
Entitlement? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #193
So, you have issues with some men making less money than some women. Too fucking bad. bettyellen Jan 2013 #195
Don't let me interrupt. You were about to make some sort of point about my privilege, no doubt. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #202
because your under performing sons are exceptions that prove the rule? bettyellen Jan 2013 #208
I stay at home with my kids gollygee Jan 2013 #211
Lucky! But of course you know both parents working is the norm in America now bettyellen Jan 2013 #218
Yeah I'm aware of that gollygee Jan 2013 #220
My husband stays home with our little children Nikia Jan 2013 #200
yep, leaping from women earning more money straight to custody battles is an odd leap!! bettyellen Jan 2013 #205
Here's Jeffy posting that women should pay MORE for health insurance than men CreekDog Jan 2013 #248
Thanks for providing my words which say exactly the OPPOSITE of what you attribute to me. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #258
you advocate policies like FDR for MEN and policies like Rush Limbaugh when it comes to women CreekDog Jan 2013 #269
I think that gender should not be a rating criteria for life and auto insurance. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #273
No, you think gender should be a rating factor when it COSTS WOMEN MORE CreekDog Jan 2013 #274
You know what I believe despite the fact that I say the exact opposite. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #286
what makes your posts and positions so MORALLY BANKRUPT is that you oppose things that help women CreekDog Jan 2013 #288
that's what makes you so transparently hypocritical!!! you support anything that saves men money CreekDog Jan 2013 #305
And why the assumption that the stress of being a stay-at-home dad would cause divorce gollygee Jan 2013 #212
Being a stay at home dad isn't stressful at all. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #228
My Sister in Law has been the bread winner in her family for twentyfive years... Walk away Jan 2013 #352
revenge? BainsBane Jan 2013 #403
Thank you. Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #196
Hear me ROAR! bettyellen Jan 2013 #199
*wink and a *nod n/t Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #203
Bogus crazyrayray Jan 2013 #383
what's the sound of one hand clapping? CreekDog Jan 2013 #239
Good! Then you'll be glad to know you've arrived. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #240
then why did you just post a graph saying it's not a myth? CreekDog Jan 2013 #241
You could try reading the links to educate yourself. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #249
Wow, according to your graph, women still make a LOT LESS Jamastiene Jan 2013 #265
If everyone worked the same hours in the same careers, that might hold some logic. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #271
That's not true, as you've been shown over and over again. yardwork Jan 2013 #338
The 7% is attributable to the fact that AAUW is doing the study. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #341
women earn less than men BainsBane Jan 2013 #399
Bingo Anna! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #22
The discussion over privilege is a sticky one bayareamike Jan 2013 #28
"I think us white guys need to man up and acknowledge this centuries old offense." sibelian Jan 2013 #92
This is junk. MKITEM Jan 2013 #108
Any black landowners at the time? We know what they did to Native American landholders in Georgia. MightyMopar Jan 2013 #109
There were many free men in colonial times. MKITEM Jan 2013 #110
there were many dsc Jan 2013 #135
And Mexican landowners who ended up on the north side of the new border... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #216
That eventually went away treestar Jan 2013 #119
True, but then some groups of white men were still excluded > Irish need not apply KittyWampus Jan 2013 #165
We have the most unequal society in the developed world. How did men "get" equality? nt Romulox Jan 2013 #325
Please explain that to billh58 Jan 2013 #144
Non landing owning people didn't own slaves. Think this through a bit, would you? Romulox Jan 2013 #295
Yes, it does make sense billh58 Jan 2013 #322
This is nonsense. Sharecroppers (non landing owning agricultural workers) didn't own slaves. Romulox Jan 2013 #323
Now where did I say "sharecroppers?" billh58 Jan 2013 #335
Study history. "Sharecroppers" were what non-land owning agricultural workers were called. Romulox Jan 2013 #339
Dear Romulox, billh58 Jan 2013 #347
I mentioned neither your education nor intellect. I mention your *fabricated history*. Romulox Jan 2013 #350
You used the word "likely", bill. I think"on occasion" used above is much more accurate. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #432
Thank you. sibelian Jan 2013 #315
Statistically maybe, and there are a bunch of things that are not easier for me because of iiibbb Jan 2013 #127
Life is easier because I'm white. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #175
That's not what the OP is saying Warpy Jan 2013 #12
Oh, give it a rest, it's exactly what they're saying... sibelian Jan 2013 #93
lol Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #14
Post 26 applies. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #33
change it CreekDog Jan 2013 #61
Recognize it. Racism and sexism aren't individual moral flaws; they're roles we play in a system Recursion Jan 2013 #73
Yeah, I've heard it. All of it. sibelian Jan 2013 #94
No treestar Jan 2013 #116
No bad...responsible to help make the necessary changes. Ken Burch Jan 2013 #181
No. There is no "privilege". sibelian Jan 2013 #317
Then you should be even more upset about it Orrex Jan 2013 #351
.... what on EARTH.... ? sibelian Jan 2013 #367
You should watch this. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #428
You completely misunderstand the problem. Deep13 Jan 2013 #304
Quit whining BainsBane Jan 2013 #397
Are there people who don't think it exists? It's almost the entire basis of christian conservatism. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #2
Lots of people deny it, generally those who benefit from it. Posteritatis Jan 2013 #7
Annnd this thread's certainly joined the others. Ugh. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #44
There is no "white male privilege". sibelian Jan 2013 #421
" man up" this would also be misandrist. equal to misogyny. per some men on du. seabeyond Jan 2013 #3
I should have used different language such as "face up" MightyMopar Jan 2013 #6
lol, ass up? i dunno. though, man up should not be a lot different from be a man. seabeyond Jan 2013 #8
Both are a form of stereotyping Major Nikon Jan 2013 #100
One of the most interesting developments in recent feminist scholarship... Deep13 Jan 2013 #307
yes. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #320
Fantastic post. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #381
Agree. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #391
Which white guys? Gays? Handicap? The poor? The Straight Story Jan 2013 #9
You don't understand how privilege works gollygee Jan 2013 #10
1+ ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #13
Inaccurate idiocy. Swamp Lover Jan 2013 #39
The concept isn't idiocy, just the way it's used sometimes Major Nikon Jan 2013 #101
B.S. MKITEM Jan 2013 #111
Thank you; someone who gets it Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #174
No. It is not "privilege." sibelian Jan 2013 #314
It's kind of a yin/yang thing gollygee Jan 2013 #319
No. It is not a "yin/ying" thing. sibelian Jan 2013 #374
Yes, it is a "yin/yang" thing gollygee Jan 2013 #377
No. The use of the term "white male privilege" has nothing to do with acknowledging anything. sibelian Jan 2013 #425
It doesn't mean someone else has GONE up gollygee Jan 2013 #430
No. There is no "privilege". sibelian Jan 2013 #316
No. White people have no "privileges". sibelian Jan 2013 #420
Do you think saying it more often gollygee Jan 2013 #431
here you go... PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #19
Love that! Thanks! smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #102
I wish this was an OP. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #279
Post 26 applies. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #34
Whooosh! Don't you have some cigarette smokers rights to defend. madinmaryland Jan 2013 #38
ask yourself whether being poor, gay, disabled, etc. would be easier or harder if not white CreekDog Jan 2013 #82
The Village People. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #207
Look at it this way Marrah_G Jan 2013 #369
YES. Take this privileged white male, for example. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #15
yes. he can drive his old beat up car and not be pulled over by police while a black man driving seabeyond Jan 2013 #16
I don't know if meth is a problem where you live, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #31
If you're talking about cops pulling people over, the relevant privilege is "attractive female", Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #48
yes. an attractive white female would get passes. as do my husband, oldest brother and father. seabeyond Jan 2013 #62
Of course theKed Jan 2013 #124
"I'm not diminishing female rape at all". yes. you are. seabeyond Jan 2013 #128
I think I understand theKed Jan 2013 #138
again, yes, another post to ignore white male privilege. nothing more. seabeyond Jan 2013 #141
Apology accepted? theKed Jan 2013 #147
now you project outrage. do you ever have an honest debate, or this just your style, cause it does seabeyond Jan 2013 #149
Who was denying white male privilege? theKed Jan 2013 #156
now... this would be just more bullshit. seabeyond Jan 2013 #159
Just following the track you laid down. theKed Jan 2013 #166
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jan 2013 #186
I know men can get raped too, but I do not know the Jamastiene Jan 2013 #285
um, have you never heard of a "pu**y check?" zazen Jan 2013 #95
I bet that guy wouldn't trade places with Halle Berry if you asked him. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #21
Post 26 applies. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #35
I really don't think that particular white guy is the subject Whisp Jan 2013 #65
OK. For the sake of fairness let me post a picture of a black dude. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #75
sure is handsome, and smart too I bet. Whisp Jan 2013 #81
Not surprised to see the point woosh over your head... Scootaloo Jan 2013 #308
This is literally the only place I've ever run across the meme that discussing privilege is bigoted. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #17
It's actually a pretty common reaction Posteritatis Jan 2013 #18
It's strange, since I know most if not all DUers would agree that the concept Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #20
The right has done a very good job messaging. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #27
me too. bench scientist Jan 2013 #250
Sadly, in my hometown, Jamastiene Jan 2013 #289
Yeah, and it is time to do this RobertEarl Jan 2013 #23
Wot? truebluegreen Jan 2013 #29
No. RobertEarl Jan 2013 #43
White males have done many good things in this country truebluegreen Jan 2013 #47
My opinion RobertEarl Jan 2013 #52
"...the affirmative action the wm embraced...." truebluegreen Jan 2013 #60
Where did I do that? RobertEarl Jan 2013 #66
Sorry if I misread you; given your "point" I'm not sure I did. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #176
White men are the reason that America and Europe are great? yardwork Jan 2013 #407
Did I write that? No RobertEarl Jan 2013 #409
Spell it out for me, then. yardwork Jan 2013 #411
Read my post. RobertEarl Jan 2013 #412
Snort. Are you going to start a thread complaining about my post in Meta? yardwork Jan 2013 #413
Well, isn't that special... billh58 Jan 2013 #30
Ok here is the contrary view RobertEarl Jan 2013 #41
Yes, I agree. The privileged white male "has been very, very for society." Lex Jan 2013 #376
Thank you! nt raccoon Jan 2013 #103
IT. IS. NOT. "PRIVILEGE". sibelian Jan 2013 #378
Are you talking about the "right" of billh58 Jan 2013 #385
"It is not an ADVANTAGE to live in the absence of oppression." Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #386
Post 26 applies. And then some. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #37
The privileged white male has been very very good for the privileged white male. Squinch Jan 2013 #74
W. T. F. GObamaGO Jan 2013 #372
Maybe, maybe not, and no i did not. RobertEarl Jan 2013 #373
I know I am a beneficiary of White Male Privilege FrodosPet Jan 2013 #24
^^^ Does not get it and never will. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #26
+1 truebluegreen Jan 2013 #32
Time to quit trying then, I suppose FrodosPet Jan 2013 #71
+1 RobertEarl Jan 2013 #83
Your last line theKed Jan 2013 #130
HELLO??? ANYBODY HOME? backscatter712 Jan 2013 #221
Good for you. sibelian Jan 2013 #423
That's part of the privilege...not having to own up. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #25
No, this is a problem democrats are facing. Quantess Jan 2013 #36
Agreed! strongly! patrice Jan 2013 #42
If we should treat every person as an individual, we should treat EVERY person as an individual. patrice Jan 2013 #40
White male privileges for those who don't know what they are... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #45
But, but billh58 Jan 2013 #50
RIght. Cause that's where we excel. In "backing." Can I steal that post 26 line? Squinch Jan 2013 #77
Of course you can billh58 Jan 2013 #90
It also means your 17 year old white son can walk from the 7-11, through his neighborhood, Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #53
Male privilege doesn't seem to work too well for him, does it? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #194
only because it went viral Skittles Jan 2013 #426
White males have received the most privilege from ECONOMIC discrimination, because they used to patrice Jan 2013 #46
And we see that in the equal number of male and female executives at the top of companies... Squinch Jan 2013 #80
Wouldn't it be great if we could move beyond this kind of privilege? Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #49
he is half white lunasun Jan 2013 #57
Are you serious??? Kalidurga Jan 2013 #68
You obviously haven't been paying attention the last several years. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #72
do you think the Black Man could have been President if he was like Bush ? JI7 Jan 2013 #86
Well, Clarence Thomas is on the Supreme Court. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #87
Clarence THomas is a Token, they would put him before they put a qualified black person JI7 Jan 2013 #88
If you'd entertain a question Kurska Jan 2013 #51
rediculess maindawg Jan 2013 #54
It's just like the Christians that love to be persecuted. Now that white guys like myself, don't brewens Jan 2013 #55
Depends on if the argument is backed up in some way Bradical79 Jan 2013 #58
White male, here ... no offense taken mike dub Jan 2013 #59
Good point. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #70
Louis CK sums this up nicely krhines Jan 2013 #64
+1! uponit7771 Jan 2013 #67
had 15 yr old white son listen. seabeyond Jan 2013 #120
Love this!!!! Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #178
I've seen that krhines Jan 2013 #318
I. LOVE. THIS Number23 Jan 2013 #222
I've known my share of white males Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #69
I tried to have that discussion once on DU2 Orrex Jan 2013 #161
Bingo. laundry_queen Jan 2013 #303
Part of the difficulty IMO is in the framing Orrex Jan 2013 #321
That argument is an attempt to foreclose discussion of inequality and class: Romulox Jan 2013 #326
I'm sorry, but I think that I'm not understanding you. Orrex Jan 2013 #348
I'm sorry. On re-read I can see my post is anything but clear. Romulox Jan 2013 #356
Thanks for the clarification Orrex Jan 2013 #357
I once heard Chris Rock quip that no white man would trade places with him. Romulox Jan 2013 #358
Sure, but that's not the point Orrex Jan 2013 #359
Forgive me, but Chris Rock having a choice of where he wants to live is an example of... Romulox Jan 2013 #360
You seem very eager to have one discussion to the exclusion of all else Orrex Jan 2013 #361
I thought I was having a civil discussion (I originally thought I was agreeing with you, even!) Romulox Jan 2013 #362
I didn't intend to insult you, but if I did so then I apologize Orrex Jan 2013 #364
Oh, for FFS! Hatchling Jan 2013 #434
Nonsense. Class privilege is NOT "white male privilege". The conflation is erroneous, and Romulox Jan 2013 #440
White privilege is the ability to say "I don't see color" Recursion Jan 2013 #76
I think the key thing is to judge people by the content of their character, Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #79
and people do that more for White Males than for other groups JI7 Jan 2013 #89
Irony is not dead. nt Romulox Jan 2013 #327
The myth of color blindness gollygee Jan 2013 #105
My sister (white, but female) exhibits a lot of what is often attributed... Silent3 Jan 2013 #78
If you are referring to the gun thread that concerned WMP, then your accusation is off. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #84
I am not nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #85
You are conflating two different things. One exists, the other does not. nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #91
What's interesting is those that argue otherwise can't seem to do so without such conflations Major Nikon Jan 2013 #97
I'll be happy to accept responsibility for my unearned privilege if you promise to never Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #96
FFS... "I posted a gun thread and it didn't work out like I thought it would." cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #98
Spot on. pecwae Jan 2013 #104
Yeah, it went so bad it got 29 recs! MightyMopar Jan 2013 #106
Do you want a cookie? nt pecwae Jan 2013 #112
Got bunch of attaboys in my e-mail box MightyMopar Jan 2013 #113
Thrilled for you. nt pecwae Jan 2013 #114
What wasn't factual? And what is it you're progressive about? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #107
thoughts frustrated_lefty Jan 2013 #134
I'm making the case that rural white gun owners are stifling meaningful gun regulations MightyMopar Jan 2013 #143
More laws! FrodosPet Jan 2013 #146
Fund the ATF and get it a director! Rural whites political allies in Congress stifle enforcement MightyMopar Jan 2013 #148
And this will get people to "start snitchin"? FrodosPet Jan 2013 #150
You think so? frustrated_lefty Jan 2013 #155
**LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!!!!** datasuspect Jan 2013 #117
Yer not kiddin'. sibelian Jan 2013 #375
I regard my WMP as a reasonable reparation for my physical handicaps and circumstances of my birth slackmaster Jan 2013 #115
With 10 percent of black men in prison, do you really want to challenge that lottery? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #121
Very few of them are in prison simply for being black. Most people in prison are indeed criminals. slackmaster Jan 2013 #122
I beg to differ. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #125
I didn't say that people NEVER get railroaded by the justice system slackmaster Jan 2013 #126
Tilts it a hell of a lot more than a bit. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #223
Black men in prison are there primarily because they're men. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #224
It is because people mistakenly think that there is only one definition for privilege Marrah_G Jan 2013 #118
Not getting fucked with as much by the police or ignored by bartenders are forms of privilege slackmaster Jan 2013 #123
So you're saying black men are gentically predisposed to being criminals? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #129
How the fuck did you get THAT out of what was posted above? NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #131
Let slackmaster defend himself MightyMopar Jan 2013 #132
It seems to be something you've made up out of thin air. ??? nt polly7 Jan 2013 #133
Crickets from slackmaster MightyMopar Jan 2013 #136
I wouldn't answer that kind of stupidity either. nt. polly7 Jan 2013 #137
Still crickets from slackmaster! So why are more black men in jail if it isn't WMP? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #139
Here's the problem with your stupid post, Mo... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #214
Sounds like sour grapes. Either it's genetic or WMP or let's hear something else from slackmaster MightyMopar Jan 2013 #227
Good question. Why are 11x as many men in jail if we're the privileged gender? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #225
Men are the guilty sex all over the world but you can't say that about race MightyMopar Jan 2013 #229
You're comfortable with sexism but not racism? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #235
Sexism definition leans toward discrimaination toward women since they tend to have less power MightyMopar Jan 2013 #243
Word salad. I asked an exceedingly simple question. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #254
Women can't be sexist because they don't have the institutional power MightyMopar Jan 2013 #292
bullshit. nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #299
You might not like the answer,but many intellectuals agree with me and unlike slackmaster i answered MightyMopar Jan 2013 #301
This entire thread is a trainwreck of sexism disguised as progressivism. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #331
I was out watching football and drinking gin and tonic slackmaster Jan 2013 #334
It looks like he intended to reply to #122 gollygee Jan 2013 #164
That's called conflating, I think. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #167
It's either genetic or WMP, what else is there? That's why slackmaster won't respond, he's cornered MightyMopar Jan 2013 #171
I wasn't "cornered" or in any way avoiding responsing to you, MightyMopar. I actually have a life. slackmaster Jan 2013 #336
No, I'm not saying that at all. Are you? slackmaster Jan 2013 #333
So why are so many black men in jail? Genetics or White male privilege? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #384
Because A. They have (in most cases) committed crimes, and B. A white person who has committed... slackmaster Jan 2013 #388
That's not how privilege is defined Major Nikon Jan 2013 #238
We don't live in an ideal world Hippo_Tron Jan 2013 #298
What you are describing are civil rights Major Nikon Jan 2013 #311
It's not a "mistake". People rightly see that CLASS BASED DISCRIMINATION is the most Romulox Jan 2013 #332
There definitely is class based descrimination Marrah_G Jan 2013 #368
That is not "privilege"..... sibelian Jan 2013 #422
Women should stop having baby boys. nt valerief Jan 2013 #140
They already are. Many are using fertility clinics to increase the chance of having a girl MightyMopar Jan 2013 #142
Reconcile this with your belief in male privilege. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #226
These women are rebelling against male power and selfishness MightyMopar Jan 2013 #293
i love my boys so i will just have to settle for education. works for us. how peaceful and easy seabeyond Jan 2013 #189
It's not bigoted, of course. But those in a luxury condo don't like that pointed out.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #145
I have privilege and I'm a minority Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #151
Thank you for posting. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #154
Exactly; although I will say... Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #157
Yes, that was really interesting to me, too. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #160
I knew we still had far to go Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #170
+1, what I've heard in the past is no one wants to have their accomplishments asterisked uponit7771 Jan 2013 #337
Isn't this a defining difference between us and the Baggers? Flashmann Jan 2013 #153
I am amazed that anyone takes this OP seriously Vinnie From Indy Jan 2013 #158
I hear well off white males whining all the time about affirmative action or some other affront. MightyMopar Jan 2013 #163
You hear voices while reading DU? Vinnie From Indy Jan 2013 #168
This OP got 39 recs, some one agrees with me. MightyMopar Jan 2013 #169
31% of Americans believe in ghosts Vinnie From Indy Jan 2013 #179
42 recs! You can't prove ghosts don't exist but WMP is easily proved MightyMopar Jan 2013 #184
Are you suggesting that 42 recs at DU is your proof? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #190
You're doing a good job explaining white privilege. Now explain the other half. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #177
Really? I believe I never attempted to explain that subject. Vinnie From Indy Jan 2013 #182
I was replying to the original poster. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #187
Try finding positve to go towards im a Belieber Jan 2013 #173
Agreed. We white guys have a lot of internal and external work to do, Ken Burch Jan 2013 #180
We do? Throd Jan 2013 #209
No, I don't represent ALL white guys, but I AM one of them, and so are you. Ken Burch Jan 2013 #217
OK, so it exists. Now what? Throd Jan 2013 #185
We never get much beyond this. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #192
i know that i have repeatedly taken it beyond that. seabeyond Jan 2013 #198
So nothing, then? ElboRuum Jan 2013 #266
try to keep your privilege in mind when interacting with others. remember your voice is not bettyellen Jan 2013 #282
So your conjecture is relative then? ElboRuum Jan 2013 #392
to clarify (or restate) he lacked the skills, and his confidence was unfounded, LOL. bettyellen Jan 2013 #395
Bettyellen... ElboRuum Jan 2013 #401
more bullshit. "I've been rather curious myself as to the putative next step in the process." bettyellen Jan 2013 #405
The steps you have elucidated... ElboRuum Jan 2013 #416
there's a difference between acknowledgement and doing something about it... bettyellen Jan 2013 #436
Second verse, same as the first. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #439
You're not supposed to. Issues like this aren't to be resolved, they are to be used as a jawbone. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #204
that is all. acknowledgment and recognition. that goes a hell of a long way. seabeyond Jan 2013 #197
try to keep it in mind when interacting with others. remember your voice is no more important than bettyellen Jan 2013 #230
this. a thousand times, this. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #231
I was literally just expanding on what you said below and must give you credit! bettyellen Jan 2013 #233
you stated it perfectly PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #234
I'm a White Male fascisthunter Jan 2013 #201
I think those people are seeing it as a personal thing rather than a systematic PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #213
Seeing as how "white men" came from Europe. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #206
Where should black men go? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #252
Canada should be for First Nations only. You're just as much an interloper as anyone! Romulox Jan 2013 #346
It is. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #210
Ah, that elephant in the room that even people at DU won't talk about. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #215
Now you understand why there are like 20 non-white posters here Number23 Jan 2013 #219
How would you even know the racial breakdown of DUers? Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #232
Exactly what I'd expect you to say. Thanks. Number23 Jan 2013 #242
Ah, so you're assuming that every non-white poster acknowleges that fact at some point, Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #244
I've found that the only people that don't acknowledge their race tend to be white Number23 Jan 2013 #253
LOL. So if they don't acknowledge their race, how do you know they are white? Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #255
And I'm guessing you're not a person who comprehends things like written words Number23 Jan 2013 #260
LOL*2. All you can really say is that *some* minority posters acknowledge their race. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #267
I'm not surprised you're laughing Number23 Jan 2013 #272
"Non-scientific". We finally agree on something. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #276
To be perfectly honest, I'd sleep much better if I was secure in the knowledge Number23 Jan 2013 #277
OK. Well on second thoughts I disagree with you on that too. Enjoy your good night's sleep! Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #278
It is afternoon where I am and I sincerely hope that this will be our last exchange. Number23 Jan 2013 #280
I'm surprised how nasty this thread has become and what that means about DU MightyMopar Jan 2013 #297
LOL! So you assume everyone here is white unless they tell you otherwise? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #263
What kept you? I was waiting for you a few posts ago Number23 Jan 2013 #268
So... your answer is "yes". n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #270
I also assume everyone is white unless they say they're not MightyMopar Jan 2013 #294
I'm sad to hear how few actual black people are on DU MightyMopar Jan 2013 #290
Yep, you nailed it. Probably more NRA sock puppets on DU than black posters Number23 Jan 2013 #312
There are probably more billh58 Jan 2013 #400
You want me to atone for something my GG3 grandfather may have done? That sounds like the dexter sinister Jan 2013 #236
And being from billh58 Jan 2013 #324
I have a couple of big old guns, and several big and small new ones too, and I shall continue to dexter sinister Jan 2013 #371
Typical NRA sock puppet billh58 Jan 2013 #398
What in the world are you smoking? dexter sinister Jan 2013 #437
Dictionary.com says: cbrer Jan 2013 #237
This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #246
Are you a white American? Then you gained from the benefits of slavery, native American conquest, et MightyMopar Jan 2013 #251
Acnowledged. Didn't I admit that? cbrer Jan 2013 #257
Post 247 (among many others) may change your mind Number23 Jan 2013 #264
Didn't say we wouldn't run into any cbrer Jan 2013 #283
Yes, I agree with you Number23 Jan 2013 #284
Racism runs deep JReed Jan 2013 #245
Can you please provide attribution for the text you quoted... SidDithers Jan 2013 #261
I'm sure you can see the names of the handful of posters that desperately need to read Number23 Jan 2013 #275
This would have been a very useful and productive conversation to have in the 1950s. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #247
Got under your skin, did it? That's probably not a bad thing Number23 Jan 2013 #256
I would say "mild bemusement" as opposed to "disgust". Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #262
I reject your whole premise that bigotry is "the defining difference" between white males and Bagger Lil Missy Jan 2013 #259
In the opening of The Great Gatsby Chathamization Jan 2013 #287
Here's an example of white privilege that doesn't often get acknowledged: thucythucy Jan 2013 #291
That "privilege" goes to women as much if not moreso. It doesn't really support Romulox Jan 2013 #296
If you will re-read billh58 Jan 2013 #328
You've made this mistake before: you can't limit discussion to some subset of the OP. Romulox Jan 2013 #330
No, it is you who have made this billh58 Jan 2013 #342
thucythucy's points are interesting. You, on the other hand, are following me from thread to thread Romulox Jan 2013 #345
As I remember, it was you billh58 Jan 2013 #349
Except of course thucythucy Jan 2013 #343
Women control the majority of wealth in this country. Romulox Jan 2013 #344
Interesting website, thucythucy Jan 2013 #353
"Wages" and "wealth" are very different concepts. You were discussing intergenerational transfers Romulox Jan 2013 #354
Indeed. "wealth" is something of an amorphous term. thucythucy Jan 2013 #366
Hopefully this is a better source for the same info (Forbes.com). Romulox Jan 2013 #355
The male privilege part of the equation is the only controversial one. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #329
I think it would help if class privilege were discussed simultaneously with WMP Hippo_Tron Jan 2013 #300
This isn't an admission of personal guilt, BTW,... Deep13 Jan 2013 #302
they are a very threatened group Skittles Jan 2013 #306
Personally, I am delighted that we have elected a black President. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #309
PREACH IT, NYE! Skittles Jan 2013 #310
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #340
Of course white privilege exists sylvi Jan 2013 #313
What is white privilege? crazyrayray Jan 2013 #387
Well, ideally what you say is true. sylvi Jan 2013 #393
Let me offer you a picture of white male privelege jtuck004 Jan 2013 #363
Frank was Native American. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #419
Yes and I should have made that clear. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #424
I was reminded that there is some suggestion that Frank Little was at least part Native American. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #427
Womanist Musings: Stop Denying White Female Privilege Bonobo Jan 2013 #438
Agree 100%, WMP is very much alive in the USA Taverner Jan 2013 #365
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #370
In your mind, maybe. But not in real life. Lex Jan 2013 #379
I'm not sure where I am OccupyManny Jan 2013 #382
Pale faced doughy fat white grey haired men 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #390
why do you have to insult DU to make your point? Can you back it up? yurbud Jan 2013 #389
57 recs, a bunch of people agree with me MightyMopar Jan 2013 #394
Not really an answer is it? ElboRuum Jan 2013 #402
Several black DU'ers have told me DU isn't African American friendly including on one on this thread MightyMopar Jan 2013 #406
So this is your attempt at mending a fence or two? ElboRuum Jan 2013 #410
"premeditated attempt to make DU suck"? Really? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #408
Yep, it's what I said. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #414
NOT ADMITTING WMP IS A PROBLEM OR EVEN EXISTS IS THE PROBLEM! MightyMopar Jan 2013 #415
Fine. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #417
Not really on a witch hunt just a search for clarity about Democrats MightyMopar Jan 2013 #418
You can look on this thread for billh58 Jan 2013 #404
How the heck is the OP insulting DU? Taverner Jan 2013 #435
I'm not surprised at all. Not at all. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #396
Tim Wise - The Pathology of White Privilege PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #429
Thank you for posting billh58 Jan 2013 #433
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