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In reply to the discussion: i'm just going to POST THIS AS LOUD AS I CAN and crush all arguments-MONSANTO=root of all evil. [View all]yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)250. There you go again. Your link has nothing to do with Roundup and bees or Ingram.
You have real trouble staying on topic and it appears you have little understanding of how scientific research works. It is not logical to defend Ingram's claims by talking about an entirely different type of research. The link you cited was about possible effects on rats. Mammals and insects can have very different ways of exposure to and/or metabolizing specific toxins so one is not necessarily relevant to the other - and furthermore the rat study you cite has not been successfully replicated.
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i'm just going to POST THIS AS LOUD AS I CAN and crush all arguments-MONSANTO=root of all evil. [View all]
farminator3000
Jan 2013
OP
OMG - I did not even think about that!! Here I am going out of my way not to buy GMOs in the store
jillan
Jan 2013
#4
no seed company is 'safe,' as where companies like monsanto don't own the seeds, they may
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#96
I have lots of bees in California. I let the wood sorrel grow. The tiny yellow
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#169
Not "pesticides" - Imidocloprid, an insecticide. Need to be more specific.
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#173
yeah, but they're the most important ones by far, which you can learn in 60 seconds try google
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#282
you actually posted some plagiarism, from a guy called UncleAdolf, so i'm glad to see you go
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#286
just grains, which corn is, you don't know what you're saying. 2/3 of food crops=totally false
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#285
I'm an insect ecologist by profession-- I know quite well what I'm talking about....
mike_c
Jan 2013
#288
then why aren't you talking about genetic diversity or all of the OTHER pollinators also dying?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#289
not really. if you have a PhD, you should know that entire ecosystems are much more than data, and
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#291
The corporate model that is being imposed on farms is what's killing bees. Monsato is the architect
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#14
Ok... I guess. What does that mean? (At least you are not defending "GMOs kill bees")
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#17
Industrial scale bee-keeping & use of pesticides & mono-cropping all combine
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#25
"GMOs do not provide any further motivation for monocropping than the original native seeds. "
Agony
Jan 2013
#47
Corn is wind pollinated. "Self pollinated" means a plant pollinates itself. Corn doesn't.
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#126
and i'm done. synergy. horizontal gene transfer. untested chemicals. surfactants. sad story, really.
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#249
i've actually seen a PET killed by round up, please don't remind me of it
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#185
read the real story, maybe, and a link, maybe? not some prepared email?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#204
Claims must be supported by actual research, not appeals to reputation (authority). What actual
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#209
There you go again. Your link has nothing to do with Roundup and bees or Ingram.
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#250
BTW, peer reviewed articles about neonicotinoids and the correlation to CCD
RomneyLies
Jan 2013
#220
bayer is just a foreign company that monsanto sells its crap to so it won't get an anti-trust suit
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#221
do you have glasses, also? you seem to be missing some key points, here
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#238
you put words on the internet constantly. if roundup isn't PART of the cause, where's a link??
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#242
yes, providing a link that isn't PAID FOR by monsanto saying their crap is safe is just a crazy idea
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#245
the relevance of you saying 'that's not true' is...? and the other hundreds of things besides bees?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#262
You brought me to this subthread because I said Roundup was safe for humans to use if used properly.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#193
they are killing pretty much everything. with a BRAND NEW PATHOGEN!! how can you know what it does?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#222
well, you've posted, in total, 1 questionable email, which is much easier than publuishing a study..
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#235
if i emailed them, i'd ask how much they got paid by M to harass the poor guy
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#240
Link is about a protest by Polish beekeepers, not about Roundup killing bees. Do you have an
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#207
here- knock yourself out- they banned it in poland so, i guess they were right. not hard to find...
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#256
will you pay attention please? big M just bought the only people doing research into the
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#267
"big M just bought the only people doing reasearch into the cause of bee death."
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#270
did you even read the article about it? because your "quote" is from beelogics website
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#273
It may have been your intent to reply to #14, but in was posted in response to me.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#135
I found your post as a response on the "My Posts" tab at the top of the screen.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#140
We live in the middle of farms (lots of corn) and we have very few insects. Frogs all die also.
glinda
Jan 2013
#103
You are a scientist, or bee-keeper, or both? Isn't it odd how Monsanto killed a test hive and bought
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#16
And these pesticides do not differ from the pesticides used on non-GMO crops.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#30
GMO crops may be increasing pesticide use - not decreasing like was sposed to happen according to
Agony
Jan 2013
#46
perhaps bees are allergic to corn pollen, which is blown hundreds to thousands of yards by the wind
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#99
WHY there is "no science" on the effects of long term use og the toxins and GMOs:
bvar22
Jan 2013
#69
i didn't just fall off the turnip truck. obviously bayer and mon-ster-santo are in cahoots!
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#95
weak. you seem to be missing the part about how monsanto THREATENS AND OWNS SCIENTISTS
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#236
that's actually laughable what you did there. thanks for reminding me to dissect your tranparency
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#279
i did read it that's the problem. the link you posted was totally bogus. you are the hysterical one
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#281
Life on earth depends on diversity. GMO's are, by definition, exact replicants = no diversity.
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#13
Standard hybrids have SOME diversity within their DNA. They are not all exact replicants.
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#28
i'm just going to POST THIS AS LOUD AS I CAN and crush all arguments-MONSANTO=root of all evil.
oldhippydude
Jan 2013
#19
Round up is no worse than any other pesticide. It's the over-application that is awful.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#27
We use a cultivator, rototiller and pull weeds by hand in the organic veggie gardens.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#91
He's a far right nutter, that no-one on DU should have anything to do with
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2013
#89
here in the USA, M just buys its way out of any controversy as with the bee research above
lunasun
Jan 2013
#41
'Root of all evil' is not the way to persuade people. No matter how LOUDLY you scream it.
randome
Jan 2013
#57
Please replace your link to the far right Natural News with a non-obscene one
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2013
#88
the biggest, oldest root on the tree? here's a video..with Dick! (Cheney, of course)
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#157
so was Silent Spring when it came out...maybe 'right' is 'wrong' on occaision?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#116
There's a kernel of truth in both sides. But Monsanto & GMO needs to be put on a leash.
backscatter712
Jan 2013
#127
The main backlash against Monsanto is due to patents and to European farmers and the subsidy regime
FarCenter
Jan 2013
#144
ALRIGHT ALREADY!!! natural news is a cuckoo site, i xxxx'd it! back on topic, please!
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#110
Link talks about Obama's admin bad moves also = you may have to remove this link too yaknow!!!
lunasun
Jan 2013
#141
i opened a can of worms there, whoops! not his fault the FDA is such a mess! he's trying!
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#149
"occupy monsanto" list of seeds/plants and snoop alert - site seems to be sane
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#155
Corrupt elections lead to corrupt government that fails to regulate/prosecute corrupt businesses
Cliff Arnebeck
Jan 2013
#161
i think i deserve a shout out for not getting booted from my own thread for an insult...
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#246
thank you for your paid spokesman nonsense. you are a perfect example of the problem.
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#254
"Bt and all the other crap are ruining people lives! giving people cancer..." Link?
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#264
like i just told your buddy...also, i know what bt is, thanks for that anyway
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#266
Bt means Bt and spraying the bacteria in its natural state is WAY different than genetic splicing
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#271
The way to "crush arguments" isn't to be AS LOUD AS YOU CAN BE and throw out
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#257
"ORDER 81: Re-engineering Iraqi agriculture The ultimate war crime: breaking the agricultural cycle"
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#276
here's the best list of seeds/plants to avoid this planting season, and lots of other stuff
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#295