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Our Absurd Fear of Fat [View all] eridani Jan 2013 OP
I think that there have been multiple (perhaps thousands) of scientific studies conducted Tutonic Jan 2013 #1
The study in question is a meta-analysis eridani Jan 2013 #2
Oh what scientific basis is he suggesting that very obese people are killed by "social stigma"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #5
Like, say, not going to the doctor because the diagnosis is always "lose weight" eridani Jan 2013 #7
the first assertion seems a bit spurious, to say the least. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #16
If people want to rationalize not wanting to be heterosexual eridani Jan 2013 #36
Nice rationale there for being an accessory after the fact to bullycide eridani Jan 2013 #38
The science says something different. It's well-known in the field; moderate overweight - moderate HiPointDem Jan 2013 #43
no. this has been well-known for some time. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #42
Our weight problem is not imaginary cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #3
I wouldn't write off the possibility of unknown environmental variables being a factor, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #6
Could very well be the case eridani Jan 2013 #22
a recent study suggests a particular bacteria may induce obesity BainsBane Jan 2013 #54
So? All those people live longer than people did in the 1920s eridani Jan 2013 #9
Trying to redefine very obese as somehow "healthy" isn't going to help. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #18
And you'll see lots of people munching on corndogs and drinking slurpees-- eridani Jan 2013 #21
No one should be "abused", no matter what they look like. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #24
True. However, "some improvement" = "still fat" for most eridani Jan 2013 #30
Except the science says that indeed, moderately obese are healthy, as measured by mortality risk. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #45
I rarely go to the mall, and I don't give a shit what other people do. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #48
There's no such 'standard AMA weight chart'. Old-style Height/Weight charts aren't typically used HiPointDem Jan 2013 #56
Well, women have more fat than men, and we live longer eridani Jan 2013 #57
It's not simply weight, so those height-weight charts don't tell the whole story. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #4
And women with proportionally more fat and less muscle are statistically going to outlive you n/t eridani Jan 2013 #8
Meh Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #15
No, just trying to counter the meme that eridani Jan 2013 #19
Well, women generally outlive men, period. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #23
And if getting sex changes won't help men live longer-- eridani Jan 2013 #44
Oh, Maybe sex changes DO help men live longer. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #46
Actually not. Sex changes shorten men's lives eridani Jan 2013 #47
Did not know that. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #49
Height-weight charts aren't used much anymore in clinical practice. Also, Campos doesn't say HiPointDem Jan 2013 #50
Height-weight charts went out the window about 25 years ago. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #59
My biggest problem with the weight thing is I would be considered overweight Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #10
Thank you for posting this OccupyManny Jan 2013 #11
This article is BAD SCIENCE, please read on! mrsadm Jan 2013 #12
Can you read? eridani Jan 2013 #13
I'm 193 6'0 and get winded tying my shoes or doing stairs TrogL Jan 2013 #14
I weigh more than that at 5' 5" eridani Jan 2013 #20
I need to lay off the eggnog and take the dogs for a walk TrogL Jan 2013 #29
Your dogs - why do they hate going out as a group in the winter? Iris Jan 2013 #41
3 dachshunds and mixes TrogL Jan 2013 #74
sounds like a fun bunch! Iris Jan 2013 #79
TrogL Skittles Jan 2013 #61
WTF Skittles Jan 2013 #52
I've always been flexible--I think it's just a genetic thing. eridani Jan 2013 #53
well, count me as a non fat-phobe, eridani Skittles Jan 2013 #60
I don't get winded and I bet I am more fit than these people who are obsessed with appearance duffyduff Jan 2013 #76
I weigh far more than you and take a cycling class Iris Jan 2013 #39
Gives one pause to think, doesn't it? n/t 99Forever Jan 2013 #17
Dangerous assumption to jump to, attorney Campos. flvegan Jan 2013 #25
+ a really large number Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #26
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #27
Explain what is dangerous about the following statement eridani Jan 2013 #31
He's reporting the results of a meta-analysis of nearly 100 scientific studies with more than a HiPointDem Jan 2013 #51
this obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #66
I don't claim to be better than skinny people but they seem to think they are better than me liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #28
See, that's really the problem, IMHO. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #34
Exactly parallel nonsense is commonly spouted about LGBT people eridani Jan 2013 #37
Wow, you are right! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #69
Not to mention the multi-million dollar diet industry that might Iris Jan 2013 #40
Very true. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #70
Yes. It becomes an endless cycle. Iris Jan 2013 #71
Any link to the study, or another commentary on it, not behind the NYT paywall? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #32
Here eridani Jan 2013 #33
Thank you (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #35
Weight gain at menopause is such a universal phenomenon Warpy Jan 2013 #55
Fat cells make estrogen. Even after menopause. I think that's the connection. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #58
Not estradiol--estrone and other metabolites eridani Jan 2013 #62
Fat cells produce estradiol as well. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #63
Yes--estradiol is produced, but it doesn't get exported eridani Jan 2013 #65
some gets exported; and estrones can be converted to estradiol by the liver. I don't understand HiPointDem Jan 2013 #68
Estrone can act directly as well eridani Jan 2013 #72
I do weight-bearing exercise all the time, and I bet I am in better shape than most "thin" people. duffyduff Jan 2013 #77
The physiologist Paul Ernsberger once said that eridani Jan 2013 #78
They also give us an energy reserve to tap Warpy Jan 2013 #73
I don't fear fat... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #64
I agree. All the things you are focusing on are much healthier than focusing on weight eridani Jan 2013 #67
Paul Campos is one of the best observers of this issue in the country duffyduff Jan 2013 #75
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