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TwilightGardener

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12. Petraeus screwing around with Broadwell was the least

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:33 PM

Jan 2013

problematic thing he did--I don't care that much how he got his sex jollies, once out of the military, where that sort of thing is against the UCMJ. It's hard to say how that directly impacted his CIA work, although I agree he had to resign. But Petraeus allowed crazy neocon nutcase think-tankers to basically run the war in Afghanistan for him--as UNPAID advisors, so there was no detection or accountability--that is a much bigger deal, IMO. SecDef Gates let Obama down on that one, and I generally think Gates was a competent man. Maybe Obama feels he needs someone who will be a better watchdog.

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Chuck Hagel's Dismal, Sordid Voting Record [View all] Mass Jan 2013 OP

i don't think Hagel is one of the good guys samsingh Jan 2013 #1

He wouldn't have a say on any of those issues as SOD. Even if we loathe gateley Jan 2013 #2

I have really mixed feelings on this. To some extent, this reminds me of Webb karynnj Jan 2013 #5

Wow -- I didn't know about Webb and the Swiftboating! gateley Jan 2013 #18

I think your comments on really on target karynnj Jan 2013 #19

And you bring up good points about understanding what war really is AND being a fiscal gateley Jan 2013 #20

Snort. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #16

I have a hard time with this, in particular his vote concerning abortion on military basis and DADT. Mass Jan 2013 #21

I know -- it's his votes regarding this in the military that concern me. However, gateley Jan 2013 #23

The most important thing for me is the issue of not jumping to war. He knows what southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #29

Not True: Access to Reproductive Health Care BIG Problem for Military Women Nick_Hentoff Jan 2013 #31

OMG IS HE A REPUBLICAN??? I DID NOT KNOW THAT OMG!!!! TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #3

It is also misguided to think he is great and forget everything else. Mass Jan 2013 #4

Obama is not a stupid man. He generally surrounds himself TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #6

Apparently, he's the best Republican that Obama could find for the job. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #8

General Patraeus indicates that the discernment might be lacking, ethics and character wise... Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #11

Petraeus screwing around with Broadwell was the least TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #12

if what you say is true datasuspect Jan 2013 #13

I have neither been a critic or champion of him. He was contentious and TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #17

He surrounds himself with the fucking terrible. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #30

Which is relevant to his becoming Secretary of Defense, how? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #7

well datasuspect Jan 2013 #14

+1 n/t FSogol Jan 2013 #27

K&R The overwhelming hateful ugliness of his whole voting record is undeniable. forestpath Jan 2013 #9

Why do we care about his abortion record? LittleBlue Jan 2013 #10

because it shines a light on the type of person he is? datasuspect Jan 2013 #15

So does this: TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #22

Actually Penetta was the guy who got to write some of the rules replacing DADT dsc Jan 2013 #25

Sounds more like character assassination LittleBlue Jan 2013 #24

since when is telling the truth about a person's record character assassination dsc Jan 2013 #26

well, if you're going to support anyone without question datasuspect Jan 2013 #28