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Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
165. Yes, that does appear to be the "biggest problem" for some
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jan 2013


I suspect that for others, being drugged against your will, dragged to three different parties, raped, sodomized, pissed on, written on and having pictures of your rape, and video of the possible rapists further humiliating you, having those sudents who call themselves the Rape Crew continue to mock and humiliate you for months - well, all that might be slightly more of a problem than "false accusations."

But the prosecutor in that town - whose home was one place used for the torture of this young woman - didn't appear to be too worried about false accusations, did she? She counseled the victim and her family to drop it because THE VICTIM WOULD BE RUN THROUGH THE MILL DURING THE TRIAL. Not because of the problem of false allegations.

In fact, most PEOPLE will not report rape because they will be made to be the guilty party by both the courts and by society. Most rape vctims bear all the pain and all of the guilt, and their attackers go on and rape some more, because society doesn't want to get involved, doesn't want to hear about penises being used as weapons.

The perpetrators SURELY weren't concerned with false accusations, were they? Not a problem for the Rape Crew.

In fact, they felt so sure of their ability to gang rape a 15-year-old with impunity, they posted pictures of themselves doing so! They tweeted their delight as they admitted the girl was being raped by their freinds! They made a video bragging about it, they were SO CONCERNED with FALSE ALLEGATIONS.

Biggest problem to me? Those who enable rapists by whatever means necessary.....







I think every country has a rape problem. EOTE Jan 2013 #1
You are probably right - But I can only speak to ours Taverner Jan 2013 #2
Sadly, my birthplace is Syeubenville... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #168
(reported to police) Rape statistics per-capita (according to wiki) Electric Monk Jan 2013 #170
No, it is global. It is a misogyny problem. When western liberals pat themselves on the back redqueen Jan 2013 #3
You are probably right - I just can't speak to other countries' problems Taverner Jan 2013 #4
It is good to see the focus finally changing, redqueen Jan 2013 #11
The key to any social change is empathy Taverner Jan 2013 #13
Empathy for women is scarce due to rampant misogyny. redqueen Jan 2013 #20
Yes, this is true. Roman Pater Familias never left our culture. Taverner Jan 2013 #22
Thanks for making me think of O Brother Where Art Thou? redqueen Jan 2013 #25
OMG, I know this is a serious subject, phylny Jan 2013 #102
"Pater Familias" is more of a problem than we think Taverner Jan 2013 #152
Atheists are more enlightened, why you have to bring that into it? snooper2 Jan 2013 #31
"on these issues" no, they are not. nt redqueen Jan 2013 #32
Care to substantiate that? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #44
Read about Elevatorgate. redqueen Jan 2013 #50
Care to enlighten MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #62
So, one guy that may havebehaved badly, and Dawkins was exorciorated for it by the broader atheist AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #72
This debate has been played out ad nauseam. redqueen Jan 2013 #76
I've been to her site. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #89
I didn't indict atheists as a group, nor liberals. redqueen Jan 2013 #92
I wouldn't use the absolutist 'right'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #111
Yes, better... redqueen Jan 2013 #122
You know we're not allowed to agree on an issue that starts out so contentious? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #134
Very good post this tkmorris Jan 2013 #127
Atheism is neutral non-belief tama Jan 2013 #155
I just don't see a subculture of atheism at all Major Nikon Jan 2013 #109
That's why I called out two subgroups. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #115
Yet you still can't see the problem with your comment Major Nikon Jan 2013 #101
Tell us again about rape... and how the "'no means no' meme is bullshit" redqueen Jan 2013 #116
You mean you want me to repost the empirical study done by two academic feminists? Major Nikon Jan 2013 #158
Atheism and materialism tama Jan 2013 #154
That venue is certainly male-dominated. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #163
Agreed. LWolf Jan 2013 #33
I read this article you linked MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #51
Taverner said the US has a rape problem. redqueen Jan 2013 #84
Ah MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #95
I would've went with "Yes, and it's global." Iggo Jan 2013 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author Kurska Jan 2013 #169
We also have a rape problem in our military. L0oniX Jan 2013 #5
Yes - and the real number is probably much higher Taverner Jan 2013 #7
I find this much more discusting than rape in the general population. L0oniX Jan 2013 #14
Well you know how I feel about Military Training... Taverner Jan 2013 #18
Been there ...seen that ...had that happen too. n/t L0oniX Jan 2013 #21
"What happens ___________ stays ______________" ask any military wife. patrice Jan 2013 #61
Let's not go down the path of partially blaming drugs (including alcohol) for rape. n/t L0oniX Jan 2013 #81
I was thinking about excuses one might hear from men for why "I misunderstood her"; patrice Jan 2013 #94
I'm a man. There is no excuse ...good or bad ...for rape. L0oniX Jan 2013 #146
I agree. Just thinking about what goes on "out there". My mind just kind of naturally does patrice Jan 2013 #149
bosnia datasuspect Jan 2013 #6
I'm sure it's world wide, but I can only speak to ours Taverner Jan 2013 #8
rape used as a tool of war datasuspect Jan 2013 #12
Yes. Women have been speaking out about this forever lunatica Jan 2013 #9
I think it's great that this is finally coming into the open Taverner Jan 2013 #10
Don't forget about prison rape, which is often the fodder for jokes - even here on DU Hugabear Jan 2013 #15
Yes. Miltary Rape, Prison Rape - we lack empathy on a grand scale Taverner Jan 2013 #17
"we lack empathy on a grand scale" CrispyQ Jan 2013 #59
There is a hidden world Rex Jan 2013 #16
rec rec rec CrispyQ Jan 2013 #63
The part that makes me so sick Aerows Jan 2013 #19
+1 DearAbby Jan 2013 #23
The greatest evil in this world is indifference. Rex Jan 2013 #26
The plot of the indifferent. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #54
Thank you. Rex Jan 2013 #143
I was extremely dissapointed how hard that quote was to find AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #145
Too true Aerows Jan 2013 #142
There were two, actually. redqueen Jan 2013 #98
For whatever reason Aerows Jan 2013 #140
Because football Scootaloo Jan 2013 #128
I agree that Aerows Jan 2013 #141
+10.000 smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #159
Males are probably raped in numbers equal to females, maybe higher, but closeupready Jan 2013 #24
Huh?! Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #30
Have a headache? closeupready Jan 2013 #34
Probably. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #35
Yes, because male rape is silly/unspeakable. closeupready Jan 2013 #39
You have just created a straw man argument, so ... LisaLynne Jan 2013 #55
do you have any evidence that men are raped in equal or greater numbers than cali Jan 2013 #41
Not at hand, no. closeupready Jan 2013 #58
no. I do not agree. cali Jan 2013 #64
Well, that's your perogative. closeupready Jan 2013 #65
The problem is you made a claim that you can't back up. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #70
Suspect as to what, though? What would be my motive here closeupready Jan 2013 #100
We objected that you said that men are raped more often than women. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #106
I said equally, and "maybe" more. Emphasis on maybe. closeupready Jan 2013 #107
You must be looking at a different DU than me ... LisaLynne Jan 2013 #112
I mean to put you on ignore earlier closeupready Jan 2013 #117
There are more left handed than right handed people in the world. So there. Feel free Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #120
Why didn't I think of that before! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #124
If there was a quadruple with Capt. Kirk having traveled through time to Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #126
LOL, yes. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #130
Ha! I almost added that to my earlier reply :-p Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #132
LOL Fine. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #119
yes, women are raped by their husbands in the US cali Jan 2013 #85
lol - you. funny. closeupready Jan 2013 #93
"I don't think you have a point, other than to pick a fight"--pot's calling the kettle black. nt raccoon Jan 2013 #171
Your premise appears to be based on.. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #133
Maybe so. closeupready Jan 2013 #135
Wait...wut? MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #42
Plonking all three of you. closeupready Jan 2013 #49
It's not that hard to figure out. Bradical79 Jan 2013 #56
Okay. I stand by the claim. closeupready Jan 2013 #67
Yes MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #79
"Independent thought" Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #86
It isn't independent thought gollygee Jan 2013 #103
You're entitled to believe that. closeupready Jan 2013 #105
You can of course then, provide us with the specific and relevant difference between LanternWaste Jan 2013 #137
done with you. closeupready Jan 2013 #138
I see. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #57
Rather an unfounded, ungrounded, baseless, conjecture without supporting evidence than an actual poi LanternWaste Jan 2013 #136
What makes you think that? Bradical79 Jan 2013 #52
"Us" who? closeupready Jan 2013 #60
closeupready -> Men who minimize rape (against women) are part of the problem. Iow -> you. bloom Jan 2013 #164
I really do find myself closeupready Jan 2013 #167
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #27
wtf? PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #28
WTF indeed! Taverner Jan 2013 #36
Dittohead. He's gone now. freshwest Jan 2013 #160
Clearly George Carlin had the right idea Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #29
Oh how I miss him! arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #37
We have a violence culture libodem Jan 2013 #38
Which violence authentically strong males don't find necessary most of the time. Yet in our patrice Jan 2013 #47
Right libodem Jan 2013 #66
I can only guess the horrors that trans-females endure. I do happen to know a few patrice Jan 2013 #68
well both really libodem Jan 2013 #113
your right, we need a law....oh wait.. crazyjoe Jan 2013 #40
Both cases cite a distinct lack of empathy Taverner Jan 2013 #43
to buy into crazy joe's crazy post cali Jan 2013 #46
I said no such thing. Please keep the comments to what i actually say. crazyjoe Jan 2013 #80
To be fair Joe MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #88
so what do you mean by your claim that false accusations of rape are a bigger cali Jan 2013 #90
There's a lot of BS there Taverner Jan 2013 #96
no, a woman's word is not all that is necessary to convict in most cases. cali Jan 2013 #45
It's not just about false accusations davidn3600 Jan 2013 #71
yes, misidentification is a problem- and not just in rape cases. cali Jan 2013 #74
Ok, you crossed the line. I do not hate woman, I have 2 beautiful daughters, crazyjoe Jan 2013 #87
anyone who claims as YOU did that false accusations of rape cali Jan 2013 #91
No it doesn't. You, again, are picking a fight here, closeupready Jan 2013 #104
no. I'm not picking a fight. I'm horrified by your claim cali Jan 2013 #108
If anyone harmed them, it's much less likely that they would inform you because they are probably bettyellen Jan 2013 #118
I'd make up stuff to better hide any misogynist I made have also. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #139
just because you don't like it, doesn't make it not true,it took me 10 seconds to find this example. crazyjoe Jan 2013 #77
I'm sorry, but that most certainly does NOT provide credible evidence cali Jan 2013 #82
Agree... ReRe Jan 2013 #147
MRA bullshit --> " in most cases, the woman's word is all that is necessary in order to convict." bettyellen Jan 2013 #69
see my response to #45 crazyjoe Jan 2013 #78
see post #87. bettyellen Jan 2013 #83
This is sick gollygee Jan 2013 #110
The biggest problem is certainly NOT false accusations DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #156
Yes, that does appear to be the "biggest problem" for some Tsiyu Jan 2013 #165
"...the biggest problem, is false accusations. " morningfog Jan 2013 #166
essential article bigtree Jan 2013 #48
+1 and thanks for putting this up. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #97
Men need to talk about what authentic male strength is & how it differs from bullying & violence. nt patrice Jan 2013 #53
While they're doing that, women need to learn kickboxing n/t leftstreet Jan 2013 #75
Kickboxing is THE BEST!! patrice Jan 2013 #99
We have a violence problem. It's all related. It's time humans evolved a bit more. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #73
This thread has brought out 2 of the worst posts I've read on this subject and the 2 idiots Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #114
But I got my first ignore from this thread! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #121
I've never used that feature before. But goddamn if said posts are any indication. Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #123
Yup, threads regarding rape tend to break out the troglodytes Scootaloo Jan 2013 #129
"that's just like his OPINION, man!" That's my "favorite" response to an alert. Yeah no Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #131
And no one ever gets to the extension of that: So, why doesn't "just like MY OPINION" carry the same patrice Jan 2013 #153
+1. The jury system has always been a flawed version of the DU popularity contest in best of times riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #157
i noticed that. freshwest Jan 2013 #161
Everyone in that town who had any awareness of that incident & didnt try to stop it Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #144
Yes and yes nt Taverner Jan 2013 #151
this just happened in a town in Alaska, evidence on video, police/adults looked the other way No Compromise Jan 2013 #148
Fuck all, let's make this public Taverner Jan 2013 #150
We have a child abuse problem. Gregorian Jan 2013 #162
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