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44. The VP as heir apparent is a relatively recent phenomenom - Nixon in '60 was really the first case

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:40 AM

Jan 2013

John Adams doesn't count - he was the first Vice President and nobody yet really knew how powerless that position actually was at that point.

Martin Van Buren was Andrew Jackson's heir apparent, but he was only named VP for the second term because Jackson's enemies in the Senate blocked his appointment as Minister to England (initally, Van Buren was in the then-traditional springboard to the presidency - Secretary of State - Madison, Monroe, and John Quincy Adams all went directly from SOS to POTUS, and Jefferson had served as SOS in the Washington administration).

To be honest, I've always seen the last two Vice Presidents (Cheney and Biden) as kind of a return to the traditional Vice President - (albeit, both of these men were/are much more involved in the administration than the traditional VP) - someone who's not expected to be the standard bearer in eight years.

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Sounds like its going to be Joe Biden/Julian Castro for Dem Pres and VP in 2016 [View all] NNN0LHI Jan 2013 OP

How 'bout Gillibrand/Castro? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1

I like that better loyalsister Jan 2013 #6

I think that decision is left up to Joe NNN0LHI Jan 2013 #7

The VP can run but he has to win primaries... DonViejo Jan 2013 #10

please name an 8 year VP who ran and did not win the nomination krawhitham Jan 2013 #30

I didn't say anything about his ability to win... DonViejo Jan 2013 #34

The VP as heir apparent is a relatively recent phenomenom - Nixon in '60 was really the first case Midwestern Democrat Jan 2013 #44

I think Joe will have an uphill battle in a campaign in three years-- TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #13

He's going to be 74 in 2016 Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #15

Yes, he is probably going to be too old. RebelOne Jan 2013 #33

What are you talking about? RudynJack Jan 2013 #2

Who says she can't fly internationally? Cheney's history of blood clots didn't keep him pnwmom Jan 2013 #3

Probably not Joe IDoMath Jan 2013 #4

If he runs he has it in the bag krawhitham Jan 2013 #31

2016 is a long time away riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #5

OMG, I am really sorry for your losses. nt eilen Jan 2013 #9

thank you i just riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #14

I am so very sorry. merrily Jan 2013 #25

Even money says Joaquín Castro has an equal shot at it Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #8

No, not a Congress person or senator, whatever he is. Obama was the exception. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #27

Nobody has grounded Hillary. former9thward Jan 2013 #11

Seriously! nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #39

I would be ok with Martin O'Malley picking Julian Castro as his VEEP. madinmaryland Jan 2013 #12

Think again. That has been a goal of his for many years. I think he also said something Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #28

Needless to say I like both these guys madokie Jan 2013 #16

Hillary45. End of story. graham4anything Jan 2013 #17

Does suffering a concussion and resulting blood clot at 65 have any lasting effects? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #38

Joe Biden had one 40 years ago. Hillary45 won it already.It takes a Clinton to defeat a Bush graham4anything Jan 2013 #42

Hillary had a blood clot in her leg in 1998 LeftInTX Jan 2013 #18

It's amazing that doctors did not put her on anti-coagulants then, or at merrily Jan 2013 #24

I admire Joe Biden.... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #19

Christine Quinn for Mayor of NYC 2013! graham4anything Jan 2013 #43

It should be noted that Biden had dsc Jan 2013 #20

Our field is going to be way stronger than the Republicans' MrScorpio Jan 2013 #21

As of now, I'd say Christie is the only one in their camp who'd have a chance. He'd be formidable Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #29

I would like to see Biden and a woman that already has national prominence. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #22

Jeez, I hope not. Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #23

A bit soon for Castro, imo, elleng Jan 2013 #26

I agree... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #37

Premature ejaculation much? aquart Jan 2013 #32

Too far off to really be putting much thought into this davidn3600 Jan 2013 #35

I think Andrew Cuomo will be a strong contender (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #36

I don't think Biden's gonna run. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #40

I love both of them LukeFL Jan 2013 #41

No to both of them. BlueStater Jan 2013 #45