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LittleBlue

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6. I like the nomination

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:16 AM

Jan 2013

Even if he is homophobic, the most important qualification for me is war skepticism.

If the Sec of Defense is wrong on gays, some might get discriminated against. If he's wrong on a war, hundreds of thousands could die in a war that will further and massively increase the debt. Some gay troops might feel bad about the appointment but at least they'll be alive, and we know Hagel will not rubber stamp a pointless war that will kill them.

This isn't to minimize discrimination against gays, but we have to keep things in perspective. We've had too many men making military decisions at the top level with reckless disregard for who will be killed.

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Appartently Hagel is the one [View all] dsc Jan 2013 OP

kick dsc Jan 2013 #1

I trust the President's decision and he knows what the hell he is doing and it is his call to make. Purveyor Jan 2013 #2

The Senate has been given a role dsc Jan 2013 #4

Yeah. That is the only issue that is important in this day when it comes to this country's defense Purveyor Jan 2013 #7

well if we can't find dsc Jan 2013 #11

As I said previously, I trust the President's judgement on this. eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #13

I don't trust any politician's judgement and I did not support Democrats in order to put sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #15

Well then don't vote for President Obama again... lol. eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #16

If the Dem Party is going to turn into the Republican Party on issues such as gay rights sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #18

You've got it backwards--a conservative Republican is coming around to the Democratic TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #19

Politicians have a habit of apologizing when they want something and that is sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #24

No, actually, I've never heard an apology like this one from a Republican. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #26

It is a problem for all the reasons you stated and also for the reason that Hagel himself merrily Jan 2013 #3

I agree with much of what you say dsc Jan 2013 #5

I did not perceive the OP to which I replied as making that point. merrily Jan 2013 #21

I like the nomination LittleBlue Jan 2013 #6

I would hope we could find a non homophobic war skeptic dsc Jan 2013 #12

You're okay with a homophobic Republican in a position of power like this? sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #17

Here are the two alternatives most mentioned LittleBlue Jan 2013 #37

Congress and the President make war decisions. merrily Jan 2013 #22

In 2006, here's how anti-gay Hagel was: TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #8

actually Brownback voted to confirm the ambassador in committee dsc Jan 2013 #10

Actually, Hagel must have voted for him in committee, too, according to the Wiki page TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #14

Hagel to this day is at best a mixed bag on these issues. merrily Jan 2013 #23

You likely won't find someone who ISN'T a "mixed bag" on some issues. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #25

Sorry, "everyone has flaws" is false equivalency, at best. merrily Jan 2013 #27

Hormel accepted the apology. Obama wouldn't tarnish one of his proudest Presidential TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #31

To the contrary: Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #32

Nobody is defending Hagel in terms of his past relationship TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #34

I didn't say they were defending Hagel, I said they were defending the recommendation. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #36

What in heaven's name does Bush floating a name mean? Nothing. He did not choose him. merrily Jan 2013 #39

To the contrary, Hormel said Hagel never even apologized to him directly. merrily Jan 2013 #38

if Barney Frank is appointed to Kerry's seat JI7 Jan 2013 #9

May be that he evolved when Obama did. sammy27932003 Jan 2013 #20

I don't believe either of them evolved. I believe that obama was always fine merrily Jan 2013 #28

We did not elect Obama to appoint ignorant conservatives to any post whatsoever. Zorra Jan 2013 #29

+1 I feel the "it's just one prayer" all over. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #30

Thank you. Why does this even need saying? merrily Jan 2013 #40

President Obama lurves appointin' him some Republicans! nt Poll_Blind Jan 2013 #33

Would be nice if he had the same love for Liberals and Progressives stultusporcos Jan 2013 #42

Well, then, Hagel is going to have to suck it up and serve cliffordu Jan 2013 #35

replace gay with muslim dsc Jan 2013 #43

Chuck Hagel can't be all bad, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #41

I doubt they would want Ron Paul either dsc Jan 2013 #44

The same DUers who excuse Hagel in many cases were also wailing against John McCain for Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #45