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patrice

(47,992 posts)
37. Federal, or otherwise, government "... of, by, and for the people" is utopian = DYSTOPIAN = you.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:47 PM
Jan 2012
K & R. n/t FSogol Jan 2012 #1
Very well said. katsy Jan 2012 #2
Nicely stated. MineralMan Jan 2012 #3
You're absolutely right. Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #4
Until society changes significantly, redqueen Jan 2012 #6
No particular dispute there. Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #8
There will be no 3rd party in America for many reasons but the simplest one is because FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #5
I totally agree. BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #17
Actually he did not get 50% in the second term. former9thward Jan 2012 #50
Compared to Dole's 41%, Clinton's 49% BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #63
K&R tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #7
Yes indeed. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #30
All important BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #64
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #9
Beginning in all ways with one's self, then, gives one the right, & options, to BRING! IT! to patrice Jan 2012 #10
occupy nt Zorra Jan 2012 #11
Why don't the "centrists" have to kiss anyone's ass or "be patient" to see their agenda implemented? Romulox Jan 2012 #12
Because they have powerful interests on their side. redqueen Jan 2012 #15
and it is imperative that I align myself behind those powerful interests...why? Romulox Jan 2012 #18
This is about votes for the president. redqueen Jan 2012 #20
Sounds like extortion. My question is why the so-called "centrists" are never called upon to Romulox Jan 2012 #21
It's just reality. redqueen Jan 2012 #24
LOL. And 2010, was also "reality". Keep on demanding people sacrifice for you, though. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #31
Where did I demand ANYTHING? redqueen Jan 2012 #34
You're asking us to align behind a "centrist" agenda, which means SACRIFICE for regular Romulox Jan 2012 #35
Um, no. I gave my opinion. redqueen Jan 2012 #36
Your assumptions are YOUR limitations, not others'. nt patrice Jan 2012 #40
this whole thread is just a kinder, gentler, more verbose version of STFU and vote.. frylock Jan 2012 #42
Completely untrue. redqueen Jan 2012 #43
Promoting awareness =/= STFU. Your characterisation suggests bias. Have you heard of OWS? patrice Jan 2012 #46
and a lot of people here wish OWS would just go away.. frylock Jan 2012 #69
And your incoherence? Is it an asset? nt Romulox Jan 2012 #47
How very vertical of you! Please consider, "IMO" or provide specific definition related to specific patrice Jan 2012 #49
More gibberish. What a bizarre attempt at persuasive argument. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #51
More disrespect = more proof of limitation. And . . . patrice Jan 2012 #53
Make that, please tell us why/HOW mutually assured political destruction is good for people & patrice Jan 2012 #55
someones upset their fringe candidates get laughed at... lash out if it makes you feel better... dionysus Jan 2012 #71
The centrists are in the center treestar Jan 2012 #75
I have a serious question for you _ed_ Jan 2012 #79
Yes of course, redqueen Jan 2012 #80
Authentic centrism would BALANCE forces, not destroy. The questions are about HOW to do that patrice Jan 2012 #23
A "REAL Centrist" sounds similar to a "TRUE Scotsman", then; actual "centrism" is Romulox Jan 2012 #29
No evidence? These are the sorts of things that families, and women in particular, have done patrice Jan 2012 #32
We're talking about the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, at this time. Your asides are odd, Romulox Jan 2012 #33
Federal, or otherwise, government "... of, by, and for the people" is utopian = DYSTOPIAN = you. patrice Jan 2012 #37
Gibberish. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #45
Name calling is so mature and useful. If I used a name for you that suggests you are possibly one patrice Jan 2012 #52
The issue is starting at the top treestar Jan 2012 #73
I agree with you completely on that!! It's a waste to vote for people who have no chance. nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #13
so winning is the be all end all? frylock Jan 2012 #44
Isn't it? Or have you forgotten our 8 years of Bush and all the other GOP shit in office? nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #62
i remember those eight years vividly.. frylock Jan 2012 #68
Take it from me, someone who wasn't born here: as long as to run in the U.S. takes mega-million$$$$ Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #77
In the past three elections I have voted for Democrats that I knew were going to lose. progressoid Jan 2012 #59
No, we need to vote regardless. However, knowing how our system works, and knowing that someone Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #61
HUH?????? progressoid Jan 2012 #65
No, if you'll re-read what I said, it was that we have to change it from the bottom up Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #66
OK progressoid Jan 2012 #67
That's odd. No Democrat, huh? Why's that? Where have all the D's gone in Vt? Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #76
I dunno but progressoid Jan 2012 #78
Well, you have enlightened me to an exception, since generally there are D's running Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #83
That's odd. Try this one. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #81
We have a 2-party system because the way to run for office is to beg Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #84
Well said! Spazito Jan 2012 #14
There's something to be enjoyed ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #16
K&R. It's time we face the truth BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #19
Thank *you*! redqueen Jan 2012 #22
It's my opinion, too BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #57
Ha... aw. redqueen Jan 2012 #60
The right wing started years ago infiltrating school boards... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #25
Ha no, I like your rant. :) Also, thanks for mentioning the Progressive Party! redqueen Jan 2012 #27
Maybe New York is unique. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #85
You are NOT "ranting" BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #58
OP is arguing against your own stated viewpoint - claims thrid party types are annoying and then msongs Jan 2012 #26
The way I see it, redqueen Jan 2012 #28
I Prefer the Wisconsin and Ohio Models Yavin4 Jan 2012 #38
Given the economic system and 2-party set up TBF Jan 2012 #39
I think doing as you describe & striving for campaign finance & voting reform COULD enable patrice Jan 2012 #41
blah blah blah messiah Jan 2012 #48
Your absolutist screen-name is appropriate for your absolutist ability to predict what will come of patrice Jan 2012 #54
The material and power to enact change is worthless absent the will whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #56
0% chance doesn't = a long shot in my book. redqueen Jan 2012 #70
Sounds like you're saying progress will only come... SidDithers Jan 2012 #82
Keep trying whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #86
You can count on it... SidDithers Jan 2012 #89
Sounds like you're baiting an opponent... Kaleko Jan 2012 #88
The poster presented a pretty clear either/or situation... SidDithers Jan 2012 #90
It's called whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #91
For now it looks like 3rd party candidates to an enormous hit with Citizens United. Nothing changes deacon Jan 2012 #72
You do know that the GOP has donated to Green Party candidates, right? redqueen Jan 2012 #74
You left out the best argument against third parties Jim Lane Jan 2012 #87
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