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Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:43 PM

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"Some in the crowd, which would grow to close to 50 people, arrived with beer" [View all] Earth_First Jan 2013 OP

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Really? If everyone had waited for a court determination, Laurian Jan 2013 #2

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have you even read the long NYT mag piece that's linked in the OP? cali Jan 2013 #12

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..... cali Jan 2013 #25

YEP. Rex Jan 2013 #64

Short memory? MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #53

You said it very clearly. You also claim posters should show 'professionalism'. Are your posts here Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #167

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Bigtree, I have been hanging around dog_lovin_dem Jan 2013 #209

No hard feelings, here. I've read your posts frequently and that's Laurian Jan 2013 #217

I think.... Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #221

I am not directly involved, but as a past victim of Laurian Jan 2013 #13

Damn straight! Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #49

boys behaved this way ... men in their lives tacitly taught them that this was how you treat women. seabeyond Jan 2013 #56

People seem to have a hard time understanding Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #137

thank you kelvin. this is a very good post and will say again. there is a freedom seabeyond Jan 2013 #139

Pure BS. n/t demmiblue Jan 2013 #16

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Well, kind of hard to ignore their own words Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #50

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So, the videos MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #57

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You should probably stop MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #72

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lol MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #90

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Ya know... MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #93

YEP. Earth_First Jan 2013 #102

You're not from around here, are you? lapislzi Jan 2013 #120

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Agreed Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #140

Shazam! n/t lapislzi Jan 2013 #119

Children?? You do know that Micheal Nodiano, from one of those tapes, is 18 years old. An adult. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #160

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You smeared all of us! As "going nuts" over this. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #171

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Well, I must say that that clears that up. yardwork Jan 2013 #192

I'm not going to alert on it (I presume someone else will). Its illustrative all on its own here. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #196

believe this bigtree Jan 2013 #200

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I've read all your posts here. yardwork Jan 2013 #206

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I think that everybody is very upset about this case. yardwork Jan 2013 #214

you're getting swarmed bubba datasuspect Jan 2013 #213

Nobody called HIM an ignorant jackass Tsiyu Jan 2013 #219

He's using common techniques designed to shut down discussion of rape, rape culture and more. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #220

we saw a video, we saw pictures, we heard the words out of the boys mouth. seabeyond Jan 2013 #18

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Come on, bigtree, you just need to move past her bullshit. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #91

It is incredible to me how often we see you wilfully misconstrue a persons comments cleanhippie Jan 2013 #84

"a little professionalism and less sensationalism would seem to be more productive..." cleanhippie Jan 2013 #81

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This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jan 2013 #101

there have been a SMALL handful of men that have done this and you are right.... seabeyond Jan 2013 #105

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lol... hugzz, i hear ya. leaving you alone. there is much more in this thread we are discussing seabeyond Jan 2013 #114

Nope. You done good. Saboburns Jan 2013 #129

this is really offensive. very offensive when we hear a girl unconscious gang raped and have our seabeyond Jan 2013 #141

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Poor, poor you Tsiyu Jan 2013 #149

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Stop? Really? You've posted on this thread 5 x what I have Tsiyu Jan 2013 #155

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Twist what knife? Again - YOU are the victim? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #161

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I was not aware that I was on your back Tsiyu Jan 2013 #170

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Bullying would be trying to force someone off the thread Tsiyu Jan 2013 #182

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You don't think anything you've said in this thread has been offensive? yardwork Jan 2013 #193

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"You're not the boss of me!" Tsiyu Jan 2013 #194

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Then why do you keep responding to my posts? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #202

here, let me take care of that replying thing bigtree Jan 2013 #203

There is far too much infighting going on in this thread. randome Jan 2013 #204

Huh? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #207

How do you respect yourself knowing that you make shit up in every post? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #104

history of posts with certain posters. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #108

More incoherence. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #109

The poster you defend - bigtree - claimed this was a "standard" teen party Tsiyu Jan 2013 #150

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lol Tsiyu Jan 2013 #157

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We all gotta do what we gotta do Tsiyu Jan 2013 #166

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I never trashed you Tsiyu Jan 2013 #179

No worries, bigtree. polly7 Jan 2013 #168

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Hey, we've all done that! No crime there. And most of us don't have the grace to admit it. nt. polly7 Jan 2013 #188

Inside the home of the high school football coach? Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #3

Absolutely. Earth_First Jan 2013 #5

Same here. Chan790 Jan 2013 #15

Not THE coach--A VOLUNTEER coach. nt tblue37 Jan 2013 #19

Not THE point.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #23

Oh well then...thank goodness it wasn't someone in a position of authority! Earth_First Jan 2013 #27

In our district, they're held to the same standard as "faculty" coaches. Brickbat Jan 2013 #28

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It's not about the teens.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #26

yes. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #32

You're making a false equivalence. lapislzi Jan 2013 #62

YEP. Rex Jan 2013 #68

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You didn't say "mitigating." I did. lapislzi Jan 2013 #94

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Then what was the point of your post? lapislzi Jan 2013 #117

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Well said, bigtree lapislzi Jan 2013 #127

'A young woman's life was ruined.' That could be part of the problem there. randome Jan 2013 #134

I can't imagine it being otherwise, but I'll concede the point. lapislzi Jan 2013 #136

And I can't imagine what it would be like to be raped so I'm only conjecturing. randome Jan 2013 #147

You sure are Tsiyu Jan 2013 #154

can i hug you.... seabeyond Jan 2013 #156

I'm hugging you back Tsiyu Jan 2013 #158

Your anger is getting the better of you. randome Jan 2013 #164

You made the statement Tsiyu Jan 2013 #175

I said some people come through this better than others. randome Jan 2013 #187

I have to admit, I am STUNNED anyone could say that this girl's life may not be ruined. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #169

it is JUST sex. how can that ruin a girls life, be real. seabeyond Jan 2013 #172

That is not what I said. randome Jan 2013 #186

no. but reality is many men really do not want to think too deeply about this cause it is painful. seabeyond Jan 2013 #189

Deflection I understand. randome Jan 2013 #191

Amazing, isn't it? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #173

I do. 16 yrs old. I shudder when I read stuff like this. My girl is completely wild. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #201

Yes, the bully here has spoken up often Tsiyu Jan 2013 #205

This was at the home of a VOLUNTEER football coach.From what I can tell, Jenoch Jan 2013 #97

As a former VOLUNTEER football coach... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #112

This sound disturbingly akin to "boys will be boys" Earth_First Jan 2013 #4

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Yes, most teen parties involve both boys and girls cali Jan 2013 #14

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you don't seem to realize that knife wounds cali Jan 2013 #31

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I need you to know that no one in my school community thought of stabbings as a standard Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #180

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Where did you happen to go to school? Earth_First Jan 2013 #33

Same here cali Jan 2013 #37

I now see that we are dealing with someone who has a very skewed sense of reality in this matter. demmiblue Jan 2013 #43

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right. everyone is misrepresenting what you said. sure. cali Jan 2013 #58

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Well, after all it was just a "standard keg party" right...? Earth_First Jan 2013 #100

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YEP. Rex Jan 2013 #106

you'd also do better if you didn't misrepresent what I've said here demmiblue Jan 2013 #60

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I would encourage anyone with similar experiences to please chime in... Earth_First Jan 2013 #61

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This is opretty much how it was growing up in Queens in the late 1980's and early 1990's alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #148

More than a few deaths, actually, is what bigtree said. Mariana Jan 2013 #124

an unconscious girl was dragged to 3 parties to be sexually assaulted. those FACTS are out. seabeyond Jan 2013 #22

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and i really do not get your perspective either. a coach should not have booze, leave party seabeyond Jan 2013 #34

I read one of parties was at the home riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #63

yes, further, the prosecutor, mother talked the raped girl and her parents to not take it further seabeyond Jan 2013 #73

Her behavior was absolutely inexcusable. amandabeech Jan 2013 #132

i hope they mean business, good to know. and like you say in previous posts seabeyond Jan 2013 #143

She needs to be removed from her post and prosecuted for obstructing justice. amandabeech Jan 2013 #146

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No one's "gobsmacked" by alcohol at a teen party, or that teens throw parties with alcohol. Brickbat Jan 2013 #36

No, dammit, I AM gobsmacked! lapislzi Jan 2013 #51

. Rex Jan 2013 #82

I don't think anyone is surprised by teens drinking alcohol at a party LanternWaste Jan 2013 #121

I Rex Jan 2013 #125

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Not especially, no Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #9

Same for me, but I have a problem here. Chan790 Jan 2013 #10

The coach threatened the reporter and those close to her. amandabeech Jan 2013 #133

“You’re going to get yours. And if you don’t get yours, somebody close to you will.” Jamastiene Jan 2013 #208

Thanks Jama, that's the quote. Chan790 Jan 2013 #222

There's a big difference between a teen kegger in a cornfield or quarry and at a coach's house. Brickbat Jan 2013 #20

A kegger with the coach's blessing? Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #42

Then there's something radically wrong with the "standards." lapislzi Jan 2013 #44

I don't think anyone is 'shrugging their shoulders'. randome Jan 2013 #48

It's the adults' job to discourage, not encourage drinking. lapislzi Jan 2013 #55

I agree. I don't expect my daughters to ever get so plastered they don't know what's happening. randome Jan 2013 #71

but this girl was drugged. not drunk. and i havent had any issue with oldest. seabeyond Jan 2013 #79

Yeah. I know. Things never got that out of hand at the keggers I attended. randome Jan 2013 #86

agreed at the very least. but, what i gather in this instance is the men/adults were full particpant seabeyond Jan 2013 #89

There is a difference between getting drunk and being drugged. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #210

Right. I forgot about that. randome Jan 2013 #216

Funny never had parties where the coaches were there Rex Jan 2013 #66

my oldest has never gone to parties... not his style. yea. youngest much more social. BUT, IF seabeyond Jan 2013 #83

Can you believe how disingenuous some are here in this thread? Rex Jan 2013 #96

it is a hard one. though i know too many parents that do not seem to hold to the same expectation i seabeyond Jan 2013 #110

Good idea to keep an eye on the troublemakers Rex Jan 2013 #115

Have you seen the video made by one of the participants? yardwork Jan 2013 #70

And yet we are told to wait for all the facts... Rex Jan 2013 #77

I guess since these were not MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #135

same here, lucky I didn't die. With todays internet exposure those days are over. Sunlei Jan 2013 #78

were your keggers at the coach's house? nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #118

Someone sounds guilty. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #138

is this the guy that had child porn, camera in the girls bathroom? or the coach let kids view porn seabeyond Jan 2013 #7

Not the coach. A VOLUNTEER coach. tblue37 Jan 2013 #29

there are 19 fuckin coaches for this team. an assistant coach would supply booze, drugs and porn seabeyond Jan 2013 #39

seabeyond, I am not trying to minimize the responsibility--or the tblue37 Jan 2013 #98

i get you. the head coach has his own garbage. but, i have read about so many other adults that seabeyond Jan 2013 #113

Absolutely! nt tblue37 Jan 2013 #183

Hope all the parents "hosting" these parties are punished, in addition to the perps TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #21

I see a major civil suit Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #45

Agreed. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #95

If any adults knew, they are in a lot of trouble. Sunlei Jan 2013 #38

As they should be. Earth_First Jan 2013 #40

I'm starting to think that a much smaller list would include those parents who didn't know. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #99

Big, fat, fucking irony. lapislzi Jan 2013 #47

that would awesome to send CNN riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #76

I'll see if hub has a photo. He photographs everything. lapislzi Jan 2013 #122

Which intersection? Maybe we can grab a street view photo from Google maps n/t KurtNYC Jan 2013 #144

Intersection of Rtes 7 and I470 lapislzi Jan 2013 #151

As an Ohioan who works with children, A Brand New World Jan 2013 #65

That is sad, they could have been stopped Rex Jan 2013 #74

...another angle to this: a party with 50+ guests creates quite a scene Earth_First Jan 2013 #88

When it's one of the football coaches and star football players guess it's the old boys network... kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2013 #218

For anyone still confused about what this OP is about... TeeYiYi Jan 2013 #130

It's no wonder where those boys got the idea Kooljas Jan 2013 #131

Ahh the old video game, Rock and Roll excuse. trumad Jan 2013 #142

video games/movies are fake, porn is real... joelbny Jan 2013 #212

You don't think mass media plays a part in molding society? Kooljas Jan 2013 #224

What kind of fantasy world do I inhabit? trumad Jan 2013 #227

Parents Donfini Jan 2013 #181

"worry about being the kids best friend" so true. i told kids years ago, i am not here to be your seabeyond Jan 2013 #184

+1 Go Vols Jan 2013 #215

this football coach allowed the rapist to continue playing after video exposed the entire event No Compromise Jan 2013 #223

Not a surprise. We need to get at the root of this problem tho... Taverner Jan 2013 #225

You are absolutely correct riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #226