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zipplewrath

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36. Always move the bar higher

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:03 PM

Jan 2012

This president chose to work with the blue dogs, and even supported them over more left leaning candidates. He went and lobbied in Kucinich's district, and never even CALLED Lieberman. He had majorities in both houses, and waited until he lost them to try to raise the debt limit. We can always use a more progressive congress, but it never hurts to have a more progressive White House either. Congress rarely wants to "get ahead" of its own president, especially in the sense of "stick their neck out".

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Want a more progressive president? Then get a more progressive Congress. [View all] Hugabear Jan 2012 OP

Exactly. elleng Jan 2012 #1

And then we will hear about all the blue dogs getting elected Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #4

Most districts won't elect Alan Grayson. TheWraith Jan 2012 #38

Sadly it's the price we must pay for being a "Big Tent" party. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #40

Yes, I would agree Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #62

Amen. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #2

So you are saying that a president can not push Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #3

I agree and further mention the Congress he had before this one, Lionessa Jan 2012 #6

Only 59 days with controlling congress, bashers are getting slack. We already know this uponit7771 Jan 2012 #26

Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2012 #11

And that's EXACTLY what he asked us to do way back in 2007. It is OUR responsibility Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #42

No, if you've been paying half ass'd attention GOP changed Senate procedures uponit7771 Jan 2012 #25

Fire the useless Boehner. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #5

Right... Until one of those "more progressive" democrats criticizes the prez whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2012 #17

Poor Obama. woo me with science Jan 2012 #8

I hear Obama sneaks into your house each night and eats all the food in your refrigerator emulatorloo Jan 2012 #15

!!! Number23 Jan 2012 #50

If the White House investigates all the dems who took bribes from the MPAA... dogknob Jan 2012 #9

Wow, I had not seen that. woo me with science Jan 2012 #16

Check plus! Firebrand Gary Jan 2012 #10

To many here want to teach America a lesson emulatorloo Jan 2012 #14

Yes because he's a BAD, BAD, BAD, EVIL, MORALLY CORRUPT MAN!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #43

Very true. n/t CC Jan 2012 #12

Yup, you get a Constitutional Amendment passing majority of Bernies and Allens in the Senate TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #13

That is a ridiculously lame attempt to excuse bowens43 Jan 2012 #18

and your response is an exporsuring how much bashers don't understand how US government works. uponit7771 Jan 2012 #28

Who voted for a conservative president?? Cherchez la Femme Jan 2012 #54

where is the supposed conservative president? Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #59

Blanche Lincoln? _ed_ Jan 2012 #19

Why do you give him that much power, then? Go out and work for the progressive Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #44

The OP was making the point that Obama can't be _ed_ Jan 2012 #49

And I agree with the OP. But, forgive me. I don't buy the excuse that since Obama campaigned for Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #51

Please tell that to Obama. We had a Progressive running here in CO Autumn Jan 2012 #20

Tell that to the president? It is YOUR responsibility to get people to the polls and vote. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #45

I did tell him about that. No it is not my responsibility to get people Autumn Jan 2012 #48

Why is it not? There is power in numbers. The more people who vote, the more we can BEAT Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #52

I commented on the fact that Obama chose to campaign for a blue dog, not Autumn Jan 2012 #55

Go back and re-read what I wrote. I simply don't accept that excuse. So what. Obama campaigned Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #58

My point was Obama chose to campaign for a blue dog, Autumn Jan 2012 #60

You're right. Why isn't that obvious to everyone? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #68

Hell I'd like to see Grayson in the White House madokie Jan 2012 #21

What you said! MineralMan Jan 2012 #22

Yeap, agree 100% Basher Rule Number One - Don't mention congress, just bash Obama uponit7771 Jan 2012 #23

You'll have to lop off the Blue Dogs and the "New Dems" (DLC) PassingFair Jan 2012 #24

You're proving the OP's point. The more progressive House was able to get through over 200 pieces of Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #53

K&R BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #27

A progressive Congress would still face Vattel Jan 2012 #29

What we need is a veto-proof progressive Congress Hugabear Jan 2012 #31

The lack of progressives or progressive legislation from the Democrats mmonk Jan 2012 #30

Pelosi house put out a shitload of excellent legislation emulatorloo Jan 2012 #47

K&R... SidDithers Jan 2012 #32

Exactly. Look at W for example. raouldukelives Jan 2012 #33

Agreed. n/t Scurrilous Jan 2012 #34

Actually, it's 'want a more progressive Congress, then get a more progressive President' T S Justly Jan 2012 #35

Always move the bar higher zipplewrath Jan 2012 #36

+a gazillion! Jankyn Jan 2012 #37

Want a more progressive president? stillwaiting Jan 2012 #39

And with this statement that you have made, I challenge you to sign Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #46

Already done it. stillwaiting Jan 2012 #61

We're on the same page. Don't see what the problem is. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #64

Glad to see we're on the same page. stillwaiting Jan 2012 #67

I disagree, there are more 25$ donors than there are 25 million dollar donors uponit7771 Jan 2012 #57

You're ignoring the legalized bribery that's within our system. stillwaiting Jan 2012 #63

Howard Dean gave us the 50-state strategy that many here have embraced. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #41

But we had one when Obama was first elected. That congress did more than an congress before Justice wanted Jan 2012 #56

+++1,000,000 nt nanabugg Jan 2012 #65

By my count you only need about 30 of them, seriously. joshcryer Jan 2012 #66