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73. if everyone received the same

regardless of whether they worked for it or not, then how many would bother working for it? Once they stop working, where does the govt go to confiscate that which they would give to you? As they used to joke in the Soviet Union "I pretend to work, they pretend to pay me". Everyone was poor and low class, except members of the party, who were more equal than the others.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	OP
The temporary 2% payroll tax cut expired. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#1
yep	Liberal_in_LA	Jan 2013	#8
It should have never been done in the first place. It hurt social security /nt	still_one	Jan 2013	#79
Not true. FICA (Social Security) taxes go into the general fund.	the botnet	Jan 2013	#138
Well, at least we don't have to guess about your intelligence.	ret5hd	Jan 2013	#143
...	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2013	#146
That is blatantly not true.	RC	Jan 2013	#148
Not Bush, but Obama	Soft Tips	Jan 2013	#178
Holiday and trust fund	fingusernames	Jan 2013	#193
Who is pretending?	AllyCat	Jan 2013	#156
"The payroll tax income itself goes into the General Fund"	the botnet	Jan 2013	#174
Your link quotes the Heritage Foundation.	Liberal In Texas	Jan 2013	#213
It was called a 2% tax holiday and it just expired. You are now paying what you were....	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#2
It went back to what it was 2 years ago.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2013	#3
Thank you all for the answers. nt	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#4
This is what you pay so that you can receive a semi-decent social security payment at retirement.	dkf	Jan 2013	#5
No	atreides1	Jan 2013	#7
Chaining the CPI has no impact on your initial payment.	dkf	Jan 2013	#18
Really, so initial payments increase with the CPI and we	Progressive dog	Jan 2013	#33
The initial payments have been the same percentage of your income since 1990.	Ms. Toad	Jan 2013	#132
Chained CPI will affect initial payments because they too will not go up with the generally	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#83
They use the average wage index to calculate your initial payments, not CPI or chained CPI.	dkf	Jan 2013	#175
This post was hidden by jury decision.	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#110
Freepers are simply brain dead morons	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#123
This post was hidden by jury decision.	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#128
No - fantasy world	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#129
"putting tax cuts on a credit card"	Soft Tips	Jan 2013	#181
iraq was bush's disaster, but afghanistan is someone else's	owenmagoo	Jan 2013	#183
Temp decrease for employee contribution, 6.2% to 4.2%, expired. Returned to previous rate.	pinto	Jan 2013	#6
Thank you for the excellent information. nt.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#12
+1	uponit7771	Jan 2013	#25
No limit on Medicare tax?	tularetom	Jan 2013	#61
I'm sick of them avoiding their fair share	uhlerster	Jan 2013	#97
This post was hidden by jury decision.	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#111
Huh??	titaniumsalute	Jan 2013	#125
Another asshole freeper	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#127
It's not what he did but the hypocrisy behind it	Earthworm	Jan 2013	#159
Yet, I bet you are one that complains whenever your car hits a pothole.	Live and Learn	Jan 2013	#165
Who wants to pay higher taxes?	leftynyc	Jan 2013	#173
I see no credible source for that information.	Live and Learn	Jan 2013	#162
No, no limit on Medicare taxable wages	REACTIVATED IN CT	Jan 2013	#194
This post was hidden by jury decision.	houkster	Jan 2013	#201
That break was one of the only stimulus options Obama had left two years ago.	JoePhilly	Jan 2013	#9
Illinois	fingusernames	Jan 2013	#196
As always, state tax issues are state tax issues.	JoePhilly	Jan 2013	#197
Just so you know, Obama and many Democrats wanted to keep the lower SS withholdings.	denverbill	Jan 2013	#10
I don't want the lower withholdings. I paid the higher taxes and am now on Social Security.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#84
Because the "holiday" was speeding up SS's path to bankruptcy.	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#112
+1.	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2013	#147
Wouldn't doing that underfund Social Security?	Freddie Stubbs	Jan 2013	#118
Yes, and that was the point.	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#180
Repugs want to kill off the fund? Really?	Ratteau	Jan 2013	#185
Indeed	fingusernames	Jan 2013	#195
But hey, everybody says it's a good thing!	Bake	Jan 2013	#11
I really can't handle the decrease right now.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#13
The works of tearorists in the house, once more. nt	Amonester	Jan 2013	#15
2% smaller....	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#26
I don't want to make light of this situation, but the increase oin deductions is 2%!	napi21	Jan 2013	#32
Pretty sizable chunk of change. Almost a weeks worth of groceries.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#40
Did you vote for the Ryan plan to preserve SS?	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#113
"hurtling even faster towards bankruptcy "	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#119
Why is that funny?	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#122
That is nothing but a wore out rw meme.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#135
Not only an ignorant notion...	skinnydipinacid	Jan 2013	#160
Cute Travis, cute. Have a nice day. nt.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#171
The Debt-Paying Generation Speaks	Soft Tips	Jan 2013	#186
It shouldn't impact each paycheck that much -	Ms. Toad	Jan 2013	#133
That is $46 a month.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#134
I was just trying to figure out your time frame.	Ms. Toad	Jan 2013	#151
Payroll is taxed on the day the check is written.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#168
Makes sense.	Ms. Toad	Jan 2013	#177
Wanted to add. I do see what you are saying.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#172
Not to mention the prices are higher than two years ago for a variety of goods	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#139
Its $1000 a year if you make $50,000.	former9thward	Jan 2013	#50
It's not a lot	SoCalNative	Jan 2013	#68
This had nothing to do with collecting SS when you retire.	former9thward	Jan 2013	#166
That would be nice...	Ratteau	Jan 2013	#187
That's about $20/week. It's nothing to sneeze at, but	napi21	Jan 2013	#71
$1000 divided by 52 weeks is about $20 per week.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#86
$86 a month is a lot. That would pay for....	Honeycombe8	Jan 2013	#94
It isn't a pittance, but someone earning $50,000 per year is doing a lot better	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#99
I know I would like to get a 2% raise	d_r	Jan 2013	#101
I feel your pain and will be soon when I get my check	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#124
If it makes you feel any better	dragonlady	Jan 2013	#22
Remind me of the Republican proposal to extend the temporary 2% reduction	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#28
Wait, I thought that tax cuts were eeeevil!	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#114
Actually, you are quite wrong, doubly wrong even.	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#145
Looks like someone didn't prepare. What about temporary holiday didn't you understand?	lonestarnot	Jan 2013	#14
Guessing this is sarcasm. Normally I can easily detect it. nt.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#17
Probably not sarcasm. The holiday was only two years.	ieoeja	Jan 2013	#24
Amen...	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#27
Were any other cuts set to expire. So no, it wasn't expected.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#41
Yes, all of the Bush tax cuts were set to expire	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#116
But should I have expected them to expire and planned on it.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#121
You will find little sympathy here, it is less a trait these days of the left	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#142
I won't be happy taking less money home.	LWolf	Jan 2013	#16
I hope in the end it all works out for you.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#19
Thanks for the good thoughts. nt	LWolf	Jan 2013	#169
That is one awful story.	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#30
I do, too. Thanks. nt	LWolf	Jan 2013	#170
If you keep voting for policies that harm business...	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#117
Oh look, we have a "success punisher" belcher.	HughBeaumont	Jan 2013	#131
I vote for policies that hurt RW douchebags	jpak	Jan 2013	#137
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Jim pel	Jan 2013	#198
Go fuck yourself, freeper	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	Jan 2013	#150
"Voting for policies that harm business."	LWolf	Jan 2013	#167
Its OK	ORINOCO	Jan 2013	#20
Welcome to DU!	Xipe Totec	Jan 2013	#37
LOL	leftstreet	Jan 2013	#46
If the tearorists succeeded to make you struggle too much, maybe DUers could...	Amonester	Jan 2013	#21
Actually if that cut continued it would change the very nature of Social Security..	madfloridian	Jan 2013	#23
Just to be clear, the holiday actually decreased SS taxes to 10.4% from 12.4%	AZ Progressive	Jan 2013	#51
It's worth it for the cause.	madfloridian	Jan 2013	#100
Worth it? I don't know.	PETRUS	Jan 2013	#102
Thank you	wryter2000	Jan 2013	#59
You were on holiday	Warpy	Jan 2013	#29
Thanks for the reasoned reply.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#42
Don't worry about it. It's not really a tax.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#31
OK ... I get your right wing gun philosophy ....	Trajan	Jan 2013	#58
Whuh?	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#144
im confused	OhZone	Jan 2013	#34
Yes, I do have a check for this month. By tomorrow, everyone paid weekly will.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#43
I have scant experience with 'weekly payroll' jobs. So please explain how and why you are paid	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2013	#155
why did they deduct more	onethatcares	Jan 2013	#35
Any IRS changes are effective with "wages paid in 2013"	Freddie	Jan 2013	#36
Regardless of any bill passage, the holiday expired Dec 31st	geek_sabre	Jan 2013	#95
If you got a check dated Jan. 2	Freddie	Jan 2013	#105
Does anyone think congress will extend the payroll tax holiday at some point?	ecstatic	Jan 2013	#38
It is more than I was expecting.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#44
At the end most Democrats and Republicans wanted it to expire, only President Obama was	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#76
A Good Start	New Proletariat	Jan 2013	#39
Welcome to DU. :)	Amonester	Jan 2013	#45
so you are advocating an offensive war	bigapple1963	Jan 2013	#48
No.	Amonester	Jan 2013	#60
I don't think New Proletariat will be around DU	DonViejo	Jan 2013	#49
Interesting...	New Proletariat	Jan 2013	#77
Not a threat at all...	DonViejo	Jan 2013	#130
So, are you taking any bets?....	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#53
Not taking any bets....	New Proletariat	Jan 2013	#70
This post was hidden by jury decision.	OldHardHead	Jan 2013	#66
if everyone received the same	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#73
I guess we should just let the people who can't find work starve or die of exposure.	hunter	Jan 2013	#75
the point was	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#81
It's my experience that most people want to work.	hunter	Jan 2013	#90
I agree	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#104
Time Well Spent	ReasonedThoughts	Jan 2013	#191
Every last person does have the ability to say "Take this job and shove it"	FlowerGurl	Jan 2013	#107
25 years ago when I moved to the DC area	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#108
Inheritance tax?	New Proletariat	Jan 2013	#78
I don't think so	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#87
Isn't it fun when they talk to themselves?	dpibel	Jan 2013	#89
Who left the freakin' door open?	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2013	#154
Had to pay for permanent taxcuts for rich professionals somehow.	kenny blankenship	Jan 2013	#47
Well said	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#55
What on Earth are you talking about?	travis_mcgee	Jan 2013	#126
That seems odd. Wouldn't a paycheck received right now	magical thyme	Jan 2013	#52
No. The date on the check is what matters.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#56
even so, it's hard to believe it's that big a change	magical thyme	Jan 2013	#57
$24 a month might not be grocery money to you.	NCTraveler	Jan 2013	#62
It's that much less that the deficit goes up for Social Security	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#54
Nothing, it's just a dream ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#63
How did you get your first 2013 paycheck on Thursday, January 3rd?	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#64
The Date on the Check Is What Matters	chrisau214	Jan 2013	#69
That is simply not true. Tax rates are counted from the time and place you did the work, not	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2013	#157
money show up in ym bank abt 7 am tomorrow	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#74
How often are you paid?	dflprincess	Jan 2013	#80
paid every two weeks	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#85
Did you check the math?	dflprincess	Jan 2013	#92
the math for my SS deduction?	blcartwright	Jan 2013	#98
I lose around $80 a month, but I know the	Riley18	Jan 2013	#65
You will be thankful when you retire and receive your social security checks.	RebelOne	Jan 2013	#67
I'm 37	LoneMarauder	Jan 2013	#91
If you people keep helping to elect republicans that is almost guaranteed.	Little Star	Jan 2013	#176
See post 87. eom	RomneyLies	Jan 2013	#72
You are being asked to pay the Social Security tax that you used to pay before Obama	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#82
For all those bitching and whining about the 2%	doc03	Jan 2013	#88
Don't give them the oportunity...	New Proletariat	Jan 2013	#93
I am just so disgusted I can't even make any more comments n/t	doc03	Jan 2013	#96
Welcome to DU! stoopid hurtz i hurd /no further text follows after this period.	green for victory	Jan 2013	#103
This post was hidden by jury decision.	WillyF	Jan 2013	#209
All this bitching and whining is why this tax holiday was the dumbest idea, period.	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2013	#158
You are supposed to SAVE that $$ for your retirement. Not spend it	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#106
Hey, National Review linked your post	Shrek	Jan 2013	#109
It's probably their OP	RandiFan1290	Jan 2013	#115
Please see post #149	CJCRANE	Jan 2013	#153
Same here, I will find out on the 15th, not looking forward to it.	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#120
The Delicate Flowers cannot bear to pay for Social Security	jpak	Jan 2013	#136
I am a food stamp and medicaid caseworker	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#140
I think it didn't hurt people before the temporary tax holiday was enacted	jpak	Jan 2013	#141
Your OP seemed just a little too faux-naif so I searched the archives	CJCRANE	Jan 2013	#149
Good catch!	greatauntoftriplets	Jan 2013	#152
Nice try, troll.	MjolnirTime	Jan 2013	#161
Buck up!	Ganja Ninja	Jan 2013	#163
For some of us that is in 30+ years	AZ Progressive	Jan 2013	#189
Thread title is attracting a lot of Freeper drive-byes	Ash_F	Jan 2013	#164
Money owed to the Social Security Trust	donbrown54	Jan 2013	#179
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Luca	Jan 2013	#182
Elvis has left the building. n/t	L0oniX	Jan 2013	#184
RUSH LIMBAUGH just read this letter on air	BanTheGOP	Jan 2013	#188
They are so pathetically desperate that their traditional hate sites	Rex	Jan 2013	#200
Your takehome pay should be 2% less, in general	REACTIVATED IN CT	Jan 2013	#190
BTW, I wonder how many people know that a total of 12.4% of their income goes toward SS	AZ Progressive	Jan 2013	#192
0. What happened that my SS withholdings in my paycheck just went up.	Juan Nation	Jan 2013	#199
This post was hidden by jury decision.	houkster	Jan 2013	#206
And who put them in debt? Republicans.	Rex	Jan 2013	#211
They are withholding a dollar more per paycheck for me	Rex	Jan 2013	#202
You worked ONE-TWO day this year and your paycheck went down by an uncomfortable amount?	GeorgeGist	Jan 2013	#203
I like your bullshitometer!	Rex	Jan 2013	#205
I just got my first fortnightly paycheck for 2013. It's $113.08 less than my previous paycheck.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#204
This post was hidden by jury decision.	houkster	Jan 2013	#208
This post was hidden by jury decision.	marty waltin	Jan 2013	#207
fsdasadf	Juan Nation	Jan 2013	#210
How did you find this site?	Rex	Jan 2013	#212

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