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thucythucy

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107. No need to "jump",
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jan 2013

it's just been my experience here that once a thread is more than a few days old people tend not to revisit, and I was genuinely curious about your answer.

Unless you had the key or combination to the gun cabinet, it was actually your parents who were the responsible gun owners, at least until you were of age--sixteen or so. It may sound like a technical point to you, but I think it's an important one.

As for them "thinking they were raising a well adjusted kid who knew how to pay attention and wasn't a psycho nut"--well, that's probably the case with most parents who introduce their kids to guns at an early age, including the ones who turn out to be, shall we say, "less well adjusted." We don't know too many verifiable details, as yet, about the Connecticut shooter's family, but I doubt his mother or anyone else were thinking, "Adam is growing up to be an absolute sociopath with homicidal tendencies, let's teach him how to shoot." Same deal with the man who killed John Lennon, who was "mentored" as a child by an adult who taught him how to use a firearm. I recall an interview with the guy who said, basically, "I never expected him to kill anybody." Well, let's hope not.

Which is the whole point. In your case it turned out well (thus far), but I still think six or eight or even twelve years old is a little young to be training anyone how to use a lethal weapon. Gun safety, yes, but not anything like firearms proficiency.

Just my humble opinion.

Best wishes,

Thucy

This is good atreides1 Dec 2012 #1
But its her 2nd amendement!!!! MichiganVote Dec 2012 #2
She COULD legally buy them, but she DIDN'T legally buy them. Bake Jan 2013 #100
She should be charged as an accessory to murder. Throd Dec 2012 #3
I think she will be obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #55
When I heard this, Bohunk68 Dec 2012 #89
I was wondering that, too obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #91
The last name is Vietnamese Glassunion Dec 2012 #92
They JohnnyBoots Dec 2012 #70
This is the kind of stuff that MUST be addressed. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #4
The NRA has opposed any toughening on these laws nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7
Yeah. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #9
why would one oppose something like this JI7 Dec 2012 #18
The NRA is in one business only nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #24
The NRA opposed banning gun sales to people on the terrorist watch list AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #87
It's my understanding that these things typically get pleaded out. krispos42 Dec 2012 #27
And the NRA and friends are making sure things stay this way nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #32
Yes, they are. krispos42 Dec 2012 #46
Yep. Taverner Dec 2012 #20
How do you stop someone from lying on app to buy a gun? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #61
perhaps if they know there is a 10 / 20 year jail sentence for that lie. good start. spanone Dec 2012 #65
I would be ok with that. But care would have to be taken that she didn't Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #72
Just ban private sales. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #77
I'd be okay with that. It'll never happen in this country, though. But it SHOULD be that way. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #85
It could happen. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #86
Perhaps part of any gun application should be: Chorophyll Dec 2012 #69
I wouldn't...if I could think of five reasons. One reason should be enough. But if I can think of 5 Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #71
Which is why it should be more than one reason, Chorophyll Dec 2012 #76
Except it's not "issuing a license" sir pball Dec 2012 #94
Right. Well, I'm generally of the opinion that this should no longer be a state-by-state issue, Chorophyll Dec 2012 #96
For the Delicate Flowers bongbong Dec 2012 #5
Your snide comments aside, which won't help the situation anyways, and are ludicrous 2 top it off, Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #49
I would have fun thinking of names for this group. Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #59
You owned a gun when you were six years old? thucythucy Dec 2012 #84
Still waiting to hear how you became "a law abiding gun owner" thucythucy Jan 2013 #105
Well excuse me for not jumping when you snap your fingers! It's not llke I would, anyways,.......... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #106
No need to "jump", thucythucy Jan 2013 #107
Ah another roller... whistler162 Dec 2012 #52
You mean like the Delicate Flowers? bongbong Dec 2012 #75
They are likely from the same resource pool! whistler162 Dec 2012 #81
Wait...one of our resident gunnies nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6
Good for her, quite sad for the people her actions got killed. jmg257 Dec 2012 #8
I do too...and she deserves every last second of it. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #11
How about if some cultist had sold the guns from his abundant weapons cache? Hoyt Dec 2012 #16
There's a difference... krispos42 Dec 2012 #31
Not much of a difference when one of your brothers-in-arms sells a gun for a fistful of cash without Hoyt Dec 2012 #57
More stereotypes from you, I see. krispos42 Dec 2012 #68
In this case though the guns were obviously registered! forthemiddle Dec 2012 #54
Lots of things are legal- like selling one your guns in back alley for fistful of cash -but immoral. Hoyt Dec 2012 #58
Didn't upset me..... forthemiddle Dec 2012 #66
If gun owners were truly responsible as we are told, we wouldn't need laws. Hoyt Dec 2012 #67
When will the DOJ authority that approved Fast & Furious be charged? nt jody Dec 2012 #10
Ah, should I be shocked nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #13
You have to be kidding with that BS. Hoyt Dec 2012 #17
AND WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE??????? Taverner Dec 2012 #21
Taverner why don't you go back to your OP that insults vets & enjoy the beating they are giving you. jody Dec 2012 #23
Exactly what does that have to do with this thread? Taverner Dec 2012 #25
#10 has everything to do with the OP because DOJ firearms were used in a murder. nt jody Dec 2012 #28
You're obfuscating Taverner Dec 2012 #30
Angry vets miss you. They want to tell you how they appreciate your use of freedom of speech for jody Dec 2012 #35
The Republican plant gets mad! Taverner Dec 2012 #37
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #39
Look, this is not needed or warranted nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #40
What part of "locked out of thread" do you not understand???? Taverner Dec 2012 #41
lol...nope. just locked out of the thread. Iggo Jan 2013 #108
But it is two very different cases. Two seperate incidents. Linked only by homicide. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #33
"less clear that the DOJ broke the law" So aggressively investigate, then prosecute, and let a jury jody Dec 2012 #36
It has been aggressively investigated Major Nikon Dec 2012 #88
I think that the DOJ may have some level of immunity from prosecution. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #90
No, no, no, no... It's "Benghazi" now. Check your memos jberryhill Dec 2012 #42
Jeepers! FarPoint Dec 2012 #51
So much ignorance, so little time... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #78
What this reaffirms is that gun control at the possessor level is a charade. Loudly Dec 2012 #12
Okay maybe we do care where you got it. Loudly Dec 2012 #14
Yep - a wee bit satisfying, but certainly too little too late. nt jmg257 Dec 2012 #15
Pretty much Taverner Dec 2012 #22
gun owners = kiddie porn users obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #56
Bingo. Every one of them is a law abiding gun owner, until they're not. Robb Dec 2012 #64
In a land of more guns than people, anyone can get anything. It's foolish to pretend otherwise. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #19
This should carry sentence of life in prison. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #26
The NRA is On Record as Promoting On the Road Dec 2012 #29
"Criminals will get guns anyway blah blah blah..." budkin Dec 2012 #34
Straw purchasers for known prohibited persons deserve the full ride. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #38
Why "known"? jberryhill Dec 2012 #43
I think someone who straw purchases for a known prohibited person aikoaiko Dec 2012 #45
That's fine, as long as we are penalizing both jberryhill Dec 2012 #47
Exactly right: any straw purchaser should be on the hook for all subsequent crimes as accomplice alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #82
The murder law in my state is very similar Nevernose Dec 2012 #63
yeah, she deserves any sentence Spengler would have gotten, imo Blue_Tires Dec 2012 #74
Register all guns and anyone caught with a gun not registered gets 10 years... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #44
You know, it's kind of strange... jberryhill Dec 2012 #48
We can regulate the target and shooting ranges on just about anything, and we should alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #83
My guess is that she'll be initially charged no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #50
That would be a stretch. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #80
Obviously criminally insane, why was this convicted murderer on the streets in the first place? lynne Dec 2012 #53
Yes, why wasn't that guy imprisoned for life? He murdered someone. BTW....he's not insane. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #62
She provided the murder weapons. HappyMe Dec 2012 #60
Lock her ass up. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #73
Negligent Homicide... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #79
Felony murder sir pball Dec 2012 #95
Can't do that... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #97
Checked the NYS statutes.. sir pball Jan 2013 #98
That would be a big assumption... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #99
THIS Glassunion Dec 2012 #93
Bad timing, plus first responders were killed...she'll get the max BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #101
They went together to buy the guns, he picked them out she made the purchase.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #102
Good Carolina Jan 2013 #103
People who buy guns need to be held accountable. liberalmuse Jan 2013 #104
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