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Demo_Chris

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13. We couldn't even manage a tax hike on the 250K bracket

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:01 AM

Jan 2013

At BEST Congress will pass some meaningless feel good nothing. When the government goes after guns three things happen:

1. MORE people buy guns. It happens every time.
2. Politicians lose elections and parties lose majorities.

And, if the government is foolish enough to start actually going after gun owners...

3. Tragedy.

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At this point in our history the 2nd amendment is a de facto terrorist instrument [View all] MightyMopar Jan 2013 OP

Agreed. We should have the 2nd Amendment repealed on the grounds of being unconstitutional. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #1

The Constitution is designed to be amended or reinterpreted MightyMopar Jan 2013 #2

Actually, there are portions of the Constitution that would be unconstitutional.... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #37

Do you listen to RW radio? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #3

Oh for Christ's sake Recursion Jan 2013 #4

I think there's a reason for that obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #5

IHBT? Recursion Jan 2013 #6

Yeah that opposition after the election was fierce. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #7

Here they come to save the day! Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #8

Looks like I'm late to the party! LAGC Jan 2013 #10

Sounds like the same kind of creative definition of pipoman Jan 2013 #9

This debate hasn't even started yet lunatica Jan 2013 #11

We couldn't even manage a tax hike on the 250K bracket Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #13

You just made my point a reality lunatica Jan 2013 #18

Exactly! If they're not doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #59

Gun nuts are ignorant evil terrorists and they refuse to have a rational discussion! Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #12

if Moslems or commies did the school shootings we would spend billions chasing them dowm MightyMopar Jan 2013 #14

Uh, no guns are NOT billh58 Jan 2013 #25

Is this the rational discourse that has not been able to take place until now? aikoaiko Jan 2013 #15

Doesn't sound irrational to me. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #16

It does to me. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #19

Except that free speech, voting, and due process do not involve deadly weapons. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #32

But obtaining and keeping those things did involve deadly weapons ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #40

That's one way to look at history. But it isn't the only way. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #43

True that. But you were the one that ... oldhippie Jan 2013 #62

Nor to me. I find it supremely rational and realistic. CTyankee Jan 2013 #24

That's fringe thinking. Robb Jan 2013 #17

We reject both extremes as unreasonable. Its not that hard to do. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #20

To the contrary. Robb Jan 2013 #22

Because extremism is a bad place to start debate. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #23

The gun pushers could have negotiated a better in the past but going forward............ MightyMopar Jan 2013 #36

Meh. A "shouting down" strategy only telegraphs the weakness of a position. Robb Jan 2013 #39

Maybe, but crazy talk definitely reveals weakness. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #41

Because extreme gun control wouldn't advance safety. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #30

If it were so simple, you would not be in such a panic. Robb Jan 2013 #38

+1 Chorophyll Jan 2013 #44

Me? Okaaaay... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #49

It's not hard, you're not particularly subtle about it. Robb Jan 2013 #51

Actually, it's impossible. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #54

U mad? Robb Jan 2013 #55

Nice follow up. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #56

Keep on digging. Robb Jan 2013 #57

Next incarnation? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #58

"Call a spade a spade" but call the Constitution a "terrorist instrument"? HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #21

Nope. The 2nd A is being used as a terrorist instrument and I agree with the OP. CTyankee Jan 2013 #26

Well, good luck with that. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #27

thank you for wishing me luck! CTyankee Jan 2013 #28

Careful what you wish for Ter Jan 2013 #53

You have a vivid imagination, I must say... CTyankee Jan 2013 #60

And why wouldn't the Union win that one MightyMopar Jan 2013 #64

Because for a cause this good, the Union would not hold Ter Jan 2013 #65

And those acts of "terrorism" would be...? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #29

do you like "terrorization" better? CTyankee Jan 2013 #31

It's less of a misleading usage, sure. (nt) Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #48

No, we must always use correct usage when describing atrocities, musn't we? CTyankee Jan 2013 #61

There is no need for assault weapons in the hands of American civilians. Period. IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #33

One mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter MightyMopar Jan 2013 #34

I wish my new upper would arrive. ileus Jan 2013 #35

How many "uppers" do you have to take to deal with OPs that stupid? Bucky Jan 2013 #52

So is the first. I'd just as soon keep it anyway. JoeyT Jan 2013 #42

And those illegal things often involve guns. Tiller being the case in point. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #45

You mean our well-armed militia has finally scared the shit out of them readcoat Brits? Coyotl Jan 2013 #46

I wouldn't do away with the 2nd Amendment Herlong Jan 2013 #47

Okay you win Bucky Jan 2013 #50

What if women defended reproductive rights with guns? Coyotl Jan 2013 #63