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onethatcares

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41. ya know what?

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:52 PM

Jan 2013

the bullshit about it being 50 employees or 28 hours or whatthefuckever is just that, bullshit.

Here in the fucking supposedly greatest country in the world, we depend on employers to provide for our healthcare which most civilised
countries take care of as a matter of life.

Here our representatives worry about those fuckers making 250,000.00 a year but don't give a rats ass about those folks making 28k or 16k and are worried about going to school or feeding their kids or buying a new pair of boots.

what do you expect employers to do?

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I was getting a tattoo today and the young lady giving me my tattoo [View all] xoom Jan 2013 OP

interesting times Cheronin Jan 2013 #1

Interesting post indeed. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #24

Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress. nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #209

Yes it is, elleng Jan 2013 #2

I hope it continues... xoom Jan 2013 #3

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #105

Confused independent2013 Jan 2013 #4

The OP didn't mention Republicans Fumesucker Jan 2013 #6

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Say goodbye--that troll has gotten the boot! nt MADem Jan 2013 #152

Bwahahahahahaha! Buh-bye! n/t cynatnite Jan 2013 #12

Was here less than twenty minutes ... LMAO lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #23

So, are you saving your tin foil for reuse and rationing your toilet paper? ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #19

Economy worse now than depression? That is a big fat lie. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2013 #20

There are many long time DUer's that want to insist this is a depression. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #39

BULLSHIT! Tempest Jan 2013 #102

BULLSHIT right backatya! A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #158

Krugman has called it a depression more than once, if that helps Samantha Jan 2013 #188

That's exactly what my grandmother told me about the Great Depression - kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #124

What many don't seem to grasp.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #168

Come back soon, again...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #33

I'll bet you ARE confused... Carni Jan 2013 #36

"Eff" that and the "effing" feudal system thinking maxrandb Jan 2013 #69

"independent2013" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #94

"Literally worse than the Great Depression?" Really? I think you need to get to a library and do MADem Jan 2013 #151

You certainly are confused. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #157

The penalties for not providing insurance to full-time employees don't kick in until Jan. 1 _2014_.. PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #5

Well they are starting now.. xoom Jan 2013 #9

Only 6 months during the transition period... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #17

That's correct Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #38

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #107

+1 Historic NY Jan 2013 #179

Must be quite a large tattoo parlor countingbluecars Jan 2013 #7

and pay them all hourly RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #11

I've never heard of such a thing RomneyLies Jan 2013 #56

I've never gotten one done at one, JoeyT Jan 2013 #86

Such a shop won't last long RomneyLies Jan 2013 #88

Far too much down time to pay hourly Tempest Jan 2013 #106

They'll last a while, JoeyT Jan 2013 #114

They won't last long paying people to sit around Tempest Jan 2013 #123

They often charge by the hour obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #196

Yeah, I've been to two that charge by the hour. JoeyT Jan 2013 #199

I mean $150-200 an hour for work obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #206

That's 30 artists, MINIMUM RomneyLies Jan 2013 #52

Or a non-franchised chain Recursion Jan 2013 #66

Non-franchised chains are mainly local Tempest Jan 2013 #112

Are all the rules and regs for the ACA written and published? dkf Jan 2013 #70

See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #89

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #108

He's milking that fail for all it's worth Tempest Jan 2013 #125

Thought I resurrected the the Little Caesar's thread AgainsttheCrown Jan 2013 #8

And all of this to avoid raising the price of pizza some 14 cents or so. truedelphi Jan 2013 #201

a tattoo parlor with 50 employees? cool story, bro. bettyellen Jan 2013 #10

Thanks for your concern, bro. xoom Jan 2013 #13

Dude, you were caught RomneyLies Jan 2013 #57

See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #90

. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #101

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #110

Doesn't mean the OP is lying, could well be the employer either stupid or lying to employee Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15

That was my thought ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #28

Or one corporation operating multiple businesses. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #37

Tattoo artists are not paid hourly. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #58

I've never know a tattoo artist who didn't work on commission. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #91

Businesses have been doing that since the 80s. ALL companies picked up by Bain did it. blm Jan 2013 #14

This may not be related to Obamacare but I have heard from some of my clients that the kelly1mm Jan 2013 #16

other reasons employers have not been giving people full time. they lie about the reason now. seabeyond Jan 2013 #18

I don't believe your story at all. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #21

There's no reason to. Tempest Jan 2013 #27

Lots of them have more than five jmowreader Jan 2013 #63

I'll bet none of them have 50 or more. Tempest Jan 2013 #65

See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #92

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #111

I seriously doubt that they have the minimum number of employees for the law LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #22

omg, be careful here 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #29

Yes, we have a low tolerance for scumbag idiot liars. tabasco Jan 2013 #40

who doesn't 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #47

On the fact that a lost post troll upthread got banned? Rex Jan 2013 #194

Yeah, if you have 75 employees working 20 hours a week TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #59

I'm calling B.S. on your story Tempest Jan 2013 #26

are you kidding me 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #31

Nothing to do with the story he pawned off on us. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #34

A tattoo parlor owner is not going to stay in business by pissing off artists RomneyLies Jan 2013 #81

See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #93

So you're changing your story after getting your ass handed to you Tempest Jan 2013 #96

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #113

And we have the newest DU meme RomneyLies Jan 2013 #146

LMAO! OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #183

Pardon me RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #192

You call that a meme? pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #200

I call BULLSHIT RomneyLies Jan 2013 #30

Really, 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #42

oh ,by the way 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #44

oh, by the way RomneyLies Jan 2013 #49

Unless you reply to yourself, like he did. uppityperson Jan 2013 #210

Your words reply #61... zappaman Jan 2013 #72

I have over a dozen tattoos. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #45

How many even give *any* artists a W2? I don't see the logic there Recursion Jan 2013 #71

There is zero business logic in having an hourly employee there, too. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #73

Thanks, I meant "hourly" Recursion Jan 2013 #75

Not to mention when the owner of a tattoo parlor brings in a new artists,... RomneyLies Jan 2013 #77

See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #95

But, but, but ... tledford Jan 2013 #115

Somenever learn RomneyLies Jan 2013 #122

Why play it safe when you have a sock defending you? n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #131

I *do* apologize for all the replies but it was just TOO MUCH FUN! :-) tledford Jan 2013 #133

It's always fun to pick on cons Tempest Jan 2013 #142

OOOH, I know RomneyLies Jan 2013 #145

Makes me wonder what's coming next Tempest Jan 2013 #147

Papa John? Enrique Jan 2013 #32

Very hard n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #35

ya know what? onethatcares Jan 2013 #41

America is not the greatest country in the world riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #154

Single payer would have averted that problem. Everyone would be covered Cleita Jan 2013 #43

the Tattoo place has 50 employees ? JI7 Jan 2013 #46

sometimes some of you here 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #48

Nice RomneyLies Jan 2013 #50

Condesending and not worthy of response IMHO. Tempest Jan 2013 #126

Why so White Knight? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #51

Do you even need to ask? RomneyLies Jan 2013 #60

no , it's just I know how bad if feels when 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #61

Does anyone in the republican party ever actually read the bills they pass? notadmblnd Jan 2013 #53

You don't want to go there. Tempest Jan 2013 #144

My statement wasn't limited to congress people notadmblnd Jan 2013 #172

Blanket statements like that are not productive Tempest Jan 2013 #173

I'm sure you do. notadmblnd Jan 2013 #182

My comment was based upon two different studies Tempest Jan 2013 #184

So when I make blanket statements, it unproductive notadmblnd Jan 2013 #186

When your statement is based upon opinion and emotion, yes. Tempest Jan 2013 #187

Now you're going to say your statement wasn't based on emotion? notadmblnd Jan 2013 #190

Tattoo artists are usually considered independent contractors. Codeine Jan 2013 #54

Yeah, all the tat artists I know are 1099's Recursion Jan 2013 #67

I've known of apprentices who were minimum wage employees RomneyLies Jan 2013 #79

I've just been thinking. I have NEVER had a tattoo artist who was paid hourly put a needle to me RomneyLies Jan 2013 #55

I bet there are some in 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #62

I bet you don't have a clue what you are talking about. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #64

Sucker bet. It's obvious. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #129

you know ,this is ai good example and very simple way 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #68

This has nothing to do with "owner" vs. "worker" RomneyLies Jan 2013 #74

Generally, the tattoo artist is both the owner and the worker Recursion Jan 2013 #80

How many tattoo artists work at MineralMan Jan 2013 #76

Yeah, it's generally not a "job" in the strict sense Recursion Jan 2013 #78

On top of that, most really good pieces take multiple appointments. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #84

Serious enough in my town to have one burned down Tempest Jan 2013 #135

Strange ag_dude Jan 2013 #82

Many of the ones I've known... Chan790 Jan 2013 #85

How many constitutes "many"? Tempest Jan 2013 #98

About a 1/3: 10ish out of 30ish? Chan790 Jan 2013 #117

If she's conservative, it does skew things Tempest Jan 2013 #132

Oh come on. ag_dude Jan 2013 #136

I live in Kern County Tempest Jan 2013 #138

UPDATE: she was not talking abut her job at the tattoo parlor!!! She has 2 part ti.e jobs and does xoom Jan 2013 #87

UPDATE: I'm getting hammered so I'm changing my story Tempest Jan 2013 #97

Thanks for the translation. ;) nt LisaLynne Jan 2013 #99

. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #103

oh, really take a look at this 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #100

Uh, dude. that's an independent artist who charges by the hour RomneyLies Jan 2013 #109

I haven't seen a fail like that in some time Tempest Jan 2013 #120

This thread keeps giving.... zappaman Jan 2013 #137

It's keeping me entertained. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #140

Yeah, but there are *50* Brandon Notches that work at this gallery. :-) eom tledford Jan 2013 #127

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #128

Do you not know how to add a link??? JaneyVee Jan 2013 #116

A link would have cut through his B.S. Tempest Jan 2013 #134

First you attempt to defend the PPR'd troll upthread... Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #141

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #104

Would have worked out better just deleting the OP RomneyLies Jan 2013 #119

But not nearly as hilarious. :-) eom tledford Jan 2013 #121

It probably would die... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #170

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #171

And 1099 employees aren't covered AT ALL. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #189

see post 91 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #130

See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #118

In the interest of pretending that I believe your story... Orrex Jan 2013 #176

. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #178

Thank god! I thought I'd never find post 87! nolabear Jan 2013 #191

I was expecting more theKed Jan 2013 #193

Then why did you include the story about the tatoo parlor as your main premise? Rex Jan 2013 #195

Because that's where the conversation took place. xoom Jan 2013 #204

IT'S POST 87 chrisau214 Jan 2013 #205

This is a sorry execuse for a reply. Thanks for playing xoom Jan 2013 #207

Regardless of what you think about my "story" xoom Jan 2013 #139

The fact that you admit it's just a "story" Tempest Jan 2013 #143

If you have to work 3 part time jobs chances are you may qualify for medicaid under Obamacare. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #148

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #149

Would you agree that this blows for those on part time work? xoom Jan 2013 #153

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #155

RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #156

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #159

RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #160

See Post 91. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #161

RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #163

See post 152. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #166

RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #167

See post 162. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #169

lol. DU can make one sorry they shared. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #150

It will not hurt them notadmblnd Jan 2013 #185

I may recommend this thread just for the replies NoGOPZone Jan 2013 #162

Seriously!?!? You would do that?? xoom Jan 2013 #164

You're up to 187 posts now NoGOPZone Jan 2013 #180

This thread has everything obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #197

Umm it has the ORIGINAL post 87!!! xoom Jan 2013 #202

See post 87. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #165

Are you arguing that large employers shouldn't ecstatic Jan 2013 #174

Post 87 was clarification for those who are a little slow Oilwellian Jan 2013 #175

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #177

Oh please iwillalwayswonderwhy Jan 2013 #181

uh huh obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #198

Thank you. Bullying is bad and can lead to bad things. I guess some people are just bullies.. xoom Jan 2013 #203

Employers have been doing this for a long time. Fla Dem Jan 2013 #208

And the employers that rely on permatemps TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #212

Train Rec!!! Iggo Jan 2013 #211