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Response to joshcryer (Reply #46)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:09 AM

48. You are ignoring the assertion that those you call "peons" needed certifications for the job...

"Nobody reaches those levels in the bank or is allowed to do that job without the licenses, training and certifications to know what they should and should not be doing or signing. "

That doesn't sound like any of the definitions of "peon", either literal or metaphorical, that I've ever heard.

If the robosigners were all required to be licensed, trained & certified... then there is a legal expectation that they know what the fuck they're doing. If they decide, under duress or just for the sake of convenience, to circumvent the legal (not to mention ethical) expectations of their training and certification... then they ought to be held responsible.

If they ARE held responsible... then no trained & certified professionals will be inclined to side-step all of the ethical considerations of their training and certification process. If NOT, then they, like the Wall St. types, will be inclined to ignore ethical constraints that are "just for show" and paperwork.

It's kind of the same thing as the holding responsible of those who ordered torture... those who performed it (like those who enforced the evictions robo-signed) can be considered "peon"s in the sense that they're enforcing the rules in the "fields"/streets... but those who signed into effect those orders have to take responsibility, as certified competent signers-into-effect, for what they signed.

Let the banks train monkeys or guinea pigs to sign the signing statements if they're worried about what a signer might say under duress from the DOJ ("Row. Row. Row."), or if they want to be able to claim that no one is ultimately responsible for statements being signed...

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